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December 17, 2017

Mankind says heaven is above.

But where above?

Is heaven up in the clouds?

Is heaven up in outer space?
If heaven is up there why do people who go above not see Jesus Christ?

Jesus Christ and His angels are in heaven above.

Planes travel up in the sky why do people not see Jesus from the planes?

Or is heaven not in the sky where the clouds are but heaven is up in outer space.

If heaven is in outer space why do the astronauts not see Jesus and His angels? Jesus is in the physical.

Astronauts have gone up in to outer space quite a few times now but they do not report seeing Jesus Christ or angels. 

So when astronauts are ready to go in to outer space are they preparing to see God?

Does the Vatican keep in touch with NASA and question the astronauts?

Do the church denomination leaders keep in touch with NASA? 
To talk about Jesus Christ and His angels up in the clouds or outer space is stupid talk. We don’t talk about Jesus Christ above in the sense of the clouds or outer space. We don’t ask astronauts if they saw God in outer space. To ask astronauts if they saw God is nonsense talk. 
God is metaphysical. Meta meaning beyond. Beyond the physical. But Jesus Christ is in the physical. God the Father is invisible. 
So people don’t really know where the heavens are that the Bible talks about. People may day dream that heaven where God is is in outer space but people don’t think for a minute that astronauts go in to the heavens where God resides.  
So heaven in reality where God is is not up there from our physical eyes. To see heaven we must look with our spiritual eyes. Heaven is a spiritual realm not a realm as we know with our physical eyes. 
So to ask an astronaut if they saw Jesus is nonsense talk. 
Jesus is above. Yes. God the Father is above. Yes. 
King David summarised heaven when he said “The Lord said to My Lord sit at my right hand side and I will put all your enemies at your feet”. 
God resides in people. Humans are the temple of God. God used to reside in buildings made by man but not anymore. God resides in the temple of humans. God would say “The world is at my feet” at the feet of the Body of Christ. The elect of God are that Body. 
God is with us. God is within us. Emanuel. God lives with us. 
Mankind is not clever. Mankind built a tower to get to God. Stupid works. The tower was called the Tower of Babel. God is not where mankind thinks He is. Mankind is blind. Mankind does not understand. God does give understanding to the Body of Christ. Understanding is here. But a veil is over the eyes of mankind. Satan deceives mankind. The Dragon is Satan. The woman who sits on the back of the Dragon perverts mankind. Most humans are perverted.
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.



May 29, 2017

 Mark (Facebook founder) wants us all in the world connected up. Sounds alright. But me thinks the Dragon Satan wants all the world connected up, connected up to the Beast. 

The Beast works for the Dragon. The Dragon is Satan. So here we become all connected up, we have the Mark of the Beast, the Beast controls us, the Dragon controls the Beast. 
This makes me think of the TOWER OF BABEL. The world’s people shared a common language, all together they sought to reach the heavens. But heaven is not meant to be taken literally. Heaven is above but to be taken metaphorically. Heaven is real just as this earth is real but heaven is to be understood to our human spirit and soul. So trying to get to God up there is misunderstood as it was in the time of the TOWER OF BABEL. God was angry to see humans he created trying to be so stupid. God had had enough of their stupidity and struck. God caused the people to separate into different languages. 
Now Satan wants to connect us humans up. BUT Satan wants to control the connections. Satan will be boss of this connected up human race. 
In the past nations were more sovereign in their own particular cultures. Each nation had their own culture different from a lot of other cultures. Nations had their own distinct language different from other nations languages. 
Now a days cultures are being eroded. Take the U.K. We see multi culturism. Even Australia is known now for its multi culturism. But multi cuturism means watering down the former distinct cultures. We humans were known to identify ourselves by our own culture, our language, our nation’s religion. 
So we lead to globalism, one culture, one language. One Government. The Dragon will govern us through the BEAST. You want money (may be the universal basic income, all cashless) you take the Mark of the Beast. 
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


July 11, 2016

(Class stands)
Good morning class. You may sit. Now where were we up to? Jarvis?

Sir we are up to ….

I know, heaven.

Sir we are up to Babel. 

I know. Babel was confusion of language sure but Babel was about heaven. Goodyear tell the class what you know of the Tower of Babel.

Sir the people were not long after the “big flood”. The flood was God’s way of cleansing this earth. Now the people were sinning again. The people were defying God by trying to enter the heavens in their own way. God was angry. The people built an enormous tall tower reaching up to the sky. Man did not understand God. Man saw the heavens as up there in the physical. Man was more physical than spiritual. Man understood God more in the physical. But God is in Spirit and Word. 

Jarvis carry on from Goodyear.

Sir I have read your book thoroughly. 

I am glad my students are reading my book. 

Sir most people see God in a physical way. Jesus Gods Son came in the physical. But Jesus in the physical was to lead the people to God in the spiritual. Man seldom understands God. Man wants the physical, man seldom wants the spiritual. Man sees skin level. Man seldom sees deeper than the skin. Man looks at man but man sees no depth. It’s like a book, man sees the cover but not inside. Man sees people and judges them according to their outer looks. But man is soul. Man is spirit. Jesus came in the flesh to lead man to God Spirit. 

Well done Jarvis.

Anyone else want to contribute?


Miller. Have you read my book?

Thoroughly sir.

Ok let’s hear from you.

Sir humans are in the physical but man sins in the physical and such sins in quantity deny man access to God. Sins bring on darkness. Darkness denies man access to spiritual knowledge. God is light. To have light one has to keep sinless. 

Yes yes Miller good. Jesus does lead us to the Father. The Father is not in the physical. The Father is in WORDS. The Father is a person as Jesus the Son is a person. We humans sin and still do but we can confess our sins to God and be forgiven so as sinners we can keep in a relationship with the Father God and learn spiritual knowledge. 

Anyone want to take off from here?


Mathews you have the class.

Sir man sees truth in the physical. Man seeks truth in the physical. Man thinks all truth is in the physical. Man does not see truth in the spiritual. 

Mathews why were the people building a tower to the sky?

Man believed God the creator was in the sky.

Why in the sky?

God is above. We are told by the wise prophets that God is above in the heavens. We call the above high up the heavens. 

Mathews, is God in the sky?

God is above but God is in us, God is above in us, God is within, God is in the temple, we our human bodies are Gods temple. 

So has God always been in man?

It’s a mystery.

So where is this heaven that the Bible talks about?

God speaks to man in metaphors. God also uses analogies. Heaven is a place metaphorically. Hell is a place metaphorically. We are people in words. Heaven is a place in words and hell is a place in words. Soul goes to heaven. Our souls are saved in heaven. We are saved already. Our souls are in heaven. We save ourselves through the Words of Jesus Christ. The Words of God enlighten our souls to the truth. Our souls live in the light of God. But there are also many souls who live in darkness or semi darkness and are going to hell. You live in hell or heaven.

But Mathews what about the after life? Maybe Howard you can enlighten us here.

Yes sir. Sir and class there is definitely an “after life”. 

But if our souls are saved what happens to our soul after we die in the physical flesh?

Class and sir after our death to our flesh we sleep. Our souls sleep. We sleep until we get new bodies. We get a new body when the earth and world are baptised. 

Howard speak on this baptism a bit more.

Baptism comes twice. Baptism comes first in water then in fire. The earth has already been once baptised and that was in water during the “great flood”. We await the second baptism of fire. Baptism cleanses. God is a God of cleanliness. God is a pure clean God. God hates the dirt of sin. Sins are dirty. The fire cleansing is the final cleansing and Jesus Christ Gods Son will appear. Jesus came once before and He will come again. When Jesus comes the saved who are alive in the flesh will get a new body. Those asleep who died in the physical body and are saved will awaken and get new bodies. 

Howard what happens to us in our new bodies?

There is a saying “Heaven is all around us”. So in our new bodies we are in heaven. Heaven is all around us. 

Do we live for eternity in our new bodies?

Apparently so sir. 

Howard get back to the Tower of Babel.

Sir and class the people wanted to reach God in their own efforts. The people did not understand God. Man sees and believes but man believes seeing in the physical is believing apart from the spiritual. Man even now tries to get in to the physical heavens. Man sends man up to the heavens in craft that go to the moon and in to orbit around the earth. Man has sent space probes to circle other planets. Man is looking for answers to life up in the physical heavens. Man thinks it’s clever to seek truth up there. But up there to our human spirit and soul is not up there in the physical heavens. Man thinks going up there in the physical will either get one closer to God or prove that God up there does not exist. God won’t be found up there. God is up there but not in the way man sees. When man proved God is not up there in the physical man justifies to himself that God does not exist and that man and all creatures and life is here by chance. Man hates God. Man wants to sin and does not want any God telling him that he is doing wrong. 

Thank you Howard.

Class we have an anomaly. Now who can explain this anomaly I write about it in chapter 6 of my book.

Sir I can explain what you wrote.

Ok Smithers go for it.

Sir the anomaly is very big. It could be the anomaly of anomalies. We have the Tower of Babel back in action. Man is again reaching up to the sky to get in to the heavens. Man is using physical knowledge to try and get truth. The anomaly is that man uses physical knowledge to know God. The tree of knowledge to man will eventually kill him. Man is mans worst enemy. Man will kill man. Knowledge that man has and gets will kill all. This knowledge of man is not the knowledge that God wanted man to know. Man fell in grace and dignity at the beginning by disobeying God and wanting to know God in his own efforts. God ate of knowledge. Now in the wilderness man uses knowledge to survive and destroy. In the Garden of Eden man had all his needs met. Now outside this garden man tries to survive and people die and live. It’s survival of the fittest. It’s jungle law. 

Man in the Garden of Eden had the choice between knowledge and Spiritual wisdom. Wisdom is Christ’s Wisdom. Christ Jesus when he was on this earth never went to school. Christ also chose disciples who were not schooled. Luke and Paul were exceptions. 

Smithers what’s the anomaly in a nut shell?

It’s knowledge. It’s knowing God. Man seeks knowledge in the physical not in the Spiritual. Jesus while nailed to the cross said “They do not understand”. 

Thank you Smithers. Essentially man wants to glory himself not God. We wait for the second baptism. We wait for the fire to destroy all mans glory. Gods glory will go on in to eternity, mans glory will burn up in the fire. In a blink of an eye lid we will be changed. There’s the bell, class dismissed.
Yours sincerely; Lester John Murray.

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