Posts Tagged ‘Religion’


July 31, 2017

Humanism is the enemy of religion. True humanists detest religion. Humanism came in to being as a break away from religion. Religion has for centuries been at the forefront of civilisation. Religion was the glue that kept societies together. Man has always been about money and religion and not necessary in that order. I think religion even came before money. Religion is about belief. 

As soon as man got language and writing together man was curious about both the heavens and nature. Man needs beliefs. Man saw living and working in communities as a better way to survive, not just a few people living in a cave separated far from others. The cave man may have dwelled in small groups. But man saw strength in numbers. There were always the marauders the bandits so living in numbers the group can fight off their enemies. Life was and is about survival. In the communities man had their leaders but man wanted their spiritual leaders. Man has since the beginning perceived the spiritual side. How does man perceive spiritual? Man is spirit and soul and so man naturally believes in the spirits. Over the centuries man in their own unique languages have called the spirit side by many names but no matter what names are used the fact is man can perceive and there is a big pattern to all this belief. The total pattern is that there is a Supreme One God. Religions in their immaturity might address many gods as in many demons so they address the dark spiritual side. The Jews addressed the one supreme God and then came Christianity to cap it off on this one God. Christ came to teach and preach about His Father the One Supreme God. We only mature spiritually and see the big pattern of true belief through Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only begotten Son of the One Supreme God.  
Humanism came as a response maybe to the corruption in religion. We call this first break away as the Renaissance. It was a born again period. Humanism was a born again break away. Birthing anew and away from religion. The Renaissance was essentially a European thing. The religion at this time in Europe was essentially Roman Catholic. We get Catholic priests who were corrupt. Bishops bought their positions. Bishops and cardinals ruled the roost. The people were under the thumb of these religious. Now amongst the people were talented people. But to learn or get good positions you had to be either rich or know friends in high places. Religion was stifling society. There were many intelligent people who wanted more of life, they wanted to learn. Most people at this time were poor and were in to labouring jobs. The people blamed religion for their predicament. People went to literature, music and the arts to satisfy their hunger for learning. We got the classical painters and musicians. People learnt to read and write. People read books. People saw beyond the confines of what the Roman Catholic Church taught. People left the church and even said the church was evil and that the Pope was the Devil. Universities were opened to all people who could pay and not just open to the upper classes. We saw an emancipation of the lower classes to learn. 
Humanism like anything that goes too much goes into unbalance. We now don’t have religion controlling every thought and deed of our lives. But people when they start something don’t know when to stop. Humanism was a response to religion. Humanism was essentially a western response. 
But humanism has not always been a response to religion. You could even say humanism came with the Greeks. The Greeks were about thought. Philosophy they called it. We got the teachers Plato and Socrates. So it was only later we got the Renaissance and the freedom to learn away from religion. The Greeks got western civilisation on to science. Philosophy soon became science. It was about the study of the heavens and nature. 
We have the initial humanistic wave coming with the Greeks then we got the second wave coming with the European Renaissance. Later came the psychological humanism from the likes of Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung. It was philosophy and psychology. But the word “science” has superseded all the previous names for humanisms pursuits. So where is religion now with the humanists? A true humanist does not need the religion of God or gods, the true humanist now has science as his her religion. It’s all about science to the humanist now. Science is about empirical evidence. Science can be proved whereas religion is just belief and can not be proved. You can not prove God exists. 
What am I? I am no humanist. To me humanism in today’s definition is not just about a freedom from religion. I have a lot of my life been religious. I am now forsaking religion. But I am not forsaking God. My Master and Lord is God through Jesus Christ. Religion in todays life can smother out talent and inspiration. Religion even today is a lot about man made dogmas and man made rules and man made rituals. Priests are forsaking Christ’s teachings to teach their own made up teachings. Priests are controlling souls with man made rules. But not all religion is bad, quite a lot is ok. I lived with religion quite a bit, I grew up with it for many years. I became a Christ believer in the lap of religion. Without religion I might not have been saved. My soul is saved. There are also good religious. With age comes wisdom. With Christ’s wisdom comes a break away from man made wisdom. Religion can be man made so I break away from the man made religion, I do keep the wisdom and religion that is of Christ. I don’t need mans wisdom now as I have Christ’s wisdom to help me. Mans wisdom served its purpose, it helped me until I was wise of God. In Christ’s wisdom I am no humanist but I also am no religious, I am neither. I don’t need humanism and I don’t need religion. It’s that simple. 
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


I am also losing my religion

July 21, 2017

I was religious for a long time. Religion also housed me for a time. But religion for me filled a gap. Religion is good and bad. But is not everything good or bad? I worked in religion for many years and in this I think God called me. God called you in to religion? Yes I believe so. I went to Bible College got a diploma in ministry and worked as a church officer for a denominational church. I don’t know if God called me to Bible College but I think God called me to a particular church to work. 

A prophet can work in religion if God calls it. I worked in a central city church where my calling of prophet was useful. I lived in the central area of a large city and my gifts can be used in such a setting. I think my time working at this church was valuable and successful. I achieved much not just for me but for the wide community. This was a traditional church setting. 
You put a precious stone in a setting. The previous stone is the gift I have from God. Yes I have a gift. I like to think I have understanding. Not what the world calls understanding. My understanding is simple. God put me in a traditional church setting for a time. I had my bad times there but overall the time there was good. My times in religion were more happier in a traditional setting than in a fundamentalist setting. 
The Pentecostals (fundamentalists) can be so pushy even to bullying. The Pentecostals stem from the North American way; money, power and status. I like the USA, do not get me wrong, I like to even have lots of money; but to use religion to get rich does not gel with me. The Pentecostal evangelists croon the shirt off your back. It’s about giving, you give and the evangelists take. You make the evangelists rich. These evangelists use television to get to the people; they motivate the people, they sell Jesus, they promise redemption, they promise healing, give and get healed, give and get saved. I am too old now and too wise now to fall for the sales pitch of these Pentecostal (fundamentalist) evangelists. I am not one to believe every salesman (person) that gives me a sales pitch. I have little time for motivational speakers. 
Religion is dying in me but my soul is saved. Jesus Christ saved my soul. Religion did not save my soul, though religion helped me. Religion can not take away my soul salvation. Religion is just a setting for the gems. You usually have to have a setting for a precious stone. But my setting is simple. Religion can be complex and man made. A complex setting is no good. It’s the stone in the setting that is precious not the setting. 
Religion dies out but Jesus lives on. I don’t take religion with me to heaven. Gods Words live on.
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


July 3, 2017

“Religion is a crux”. So says Churchill. And I agree. Churchill says “reason should rule”. 

I say all humans need a crux. We need support. We need something to hold us up. For me my crux is the cross. The cross holds me up. The cross held Jesus Christ up. I am like one of the two criminals on crosses on each side of Jesus. I am like the sinner on the cross next to Jesus that repented. My old sinful nature dies on the cross. My sins die on the cross with Jesus. Jesus went before us. We in our bodies live the death, resurrection, and risen Christ. Our crux is the cross. Religion with all it’s rituals and sacraments can but be all show whereas the truly saved person goes through what Jesus went through but this goes on in the inside. Religion can be an outside thing whereas true religion is more an inside thing. Religion can help us to get to our deliverance. Religion can be our support until we are strong enough to be supported by just the cross. It is hard to let just the cross hold us up so religion can make it easier. Reason can rule us better when we are dead to the ruling by the flesh. On the cross we die to the sins of the flesh. We go through a salvation. Our souls are freed from our sins. 
Religion can not save us but it can help us. Religion can help us bear the pain of salvation. Religion can bring people together to help one another. 
I saw the movie “Churchill” today. It was interesting but I was not impressed. The film portrays Churchill as a grumpy old man. Did this film do Churchill justice? 
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


January 5, 2017

How long have you been depressed?
About a week.

I can refer you to a specialist.

Yes please but what do they specialise in?

It depends on you. There are two types of specialist in this area. 

I don’t follow.

See in the past religion was a mainstay of a lot of thinking. Religious thought meant believing in a higher power what we call God. Religion now is on the out. The fabric of society is being now made to accept any type of belief. Most nations grew up with their own each unique religion. The Western nations have their Christian religion. Other nations have their religions. The East have their god deities. Now in the West paganism has creeped in to our main fabric of society. It is popular to believe in bizarre beliefs like Jedi and humanism. Man wants to be his own God. Man wants to rule his own destiny. Who wants to obey a God above that you can not see. Humanism has creeped in to main stay thinking world wide and it is thought of as being clever to have no belief in a supreme God. Actually humanism supports science. Science is the new God. Trust science not a God you can not see. Learn science not learn from God. The bible is a simple book. Only simple people read a bible full of myths and tales. To be scientific is to be clever. Science has truth. Jesus is a real person and taught good sense but you don’t want to read about him much because he never taught science. Science is king. 

But Doctor what is this all to do with my going to a specialist?

The type of specialist you need to go to is one who specialises in either the brain or the soul. 

I don’t get it.

You will. See soul is a religious word. Soul is to do with the supreme God. Soul is to do with salvation. You know ‘convert the soul’. Soul goes on for eternity. Soul is right from the pages of the bible. Soul is a western thought word. In the past, and still is, specialists of the soul were/are called psychiatrists. Psyche means soul. Doctor healing the soul. Psychologists are also of the psyche the soul. Psychologists study the soul, they are not doctors to heal the soul they merely do study of the soul and can help by say analysing the soul. 

But how can doctors heal the soul?

Shock treatment, lobotomies, drugs. They mostly use drugs. It’s mainly about trying to rectify the chemical imbalance in the brain.

So why are specialists of the soul called psyche doctors when these doctors are in to treatments dealing with the physical brain and not the soul?

Soul was thought of as in the head. It still is thought that in many circles. Religion still believes in soul. But many doctors, specialists, medical people are not religious now. Most of these specialist people now do not believe in a supreme God or a soul. These people rely heavily on science. Science is their God. These specialists look to science to answer all their problems. Trusting a God that you can not see is looked at as being foolish. 

Doctor I believe in a supreme God.

In that case I can refer you to a soul specialist doctor.

What was the other doctor?

That would be a brain doctor. The word psyche for the medical side has been abused. Brain doctors using the word psyche soul are not telling the truth. Brain doctors who rely on only science should not use the word soul in their job title. Actually in this case the soul job title is misleading because brain doctors are only about the visible not the invisible. Soul doctors on the other hand have every right to use psyche in their title because they believe in an invisible supreme God. 

Doctor I trust God.

So do I. But science has taken over from God above. Medicine now is not about God. But there are still a few of us Doctor God believers. You have to search for us. 

How will my depression get treated?

The soul doctor first can pray. The prayer of a righteous person is very powerful. The soul doctor is limited by what he can do because the world is ruled by Godless authorities and this doctor is ruled by these worldly rulers. The world and Gods kingdom are two different things. Doctors work for money and therefore these doctors are keyed in to the grid of the world’s networks. Take the mark of the beast. This mark will definitely tie you in to a grid. The grid is where the beast controls you. The beast might even know your heart beat. The beast through this mark might even be able to kill you. Gods kingdom on the other hand is within. Gods kingdom is not of this world. So soul doctors to appease the spiritual rulers of this world also use science treatments. But soul doctors still recognise soul and may try to counsel you. Counselling is not forbidden fruit to the rulers. Brain doctors might just go straight to a physical treatment. Medication and lots of it. 

Doctor should I go to a priest to help me?

Yes you can of course. But the governing rulers would prefer you take say medication. Science does work. God created science. The tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden was made by God. Knowledge comes from God. God simply said “do not to eat of this knowledge tree. Eat of the wisdom tree”. Wisdom and knowledge can be two different things. Wisdom is about behaviour. Jesus Christ is Gods wisdom. Jesus Christ is not all knowledge of good and evil. Jesus never taught science. The bible is in no way a science book. The bible is not taught at universities or colleges or schools. Some religious schools might have a bit taught from the bible. What main stream university teaches the bible? Universities do teach theology but such courses are not reading and studying the bible as the Word of God. Such study is very intellectual and not Spiritual at all. Bible colleges do teach from the bible as the Word of God but the colleges also have to fall in to line behind the rulers of this world. To get money any educational institution has to fall in to line behind the spiritual rulers of this world. Schools and colleges and universities need money. Money makes the world go around to most people and money makes education go around. So many schools, colleges, universities etc are on the world grid and this grid in the future will be the mark of the beast. The beast will control the world. 

Doctor I need money. 

We all do.

Science does good or bad. I will take my chances and hope I get the good. Medication does good or bad. My employer won’t employ me if I don’t have a notice saying that I have been checked by a specialist. My employer is a humanist. I had better take the medication. I need the money from my salary. Medication has helped many many people. I will take my chances and go with science.

I understand. Yes medication does help. I will refer you to a brain doctor. If you change your mind later on down the track I can also refer you to a soul doctor. Soul doctors are not respected much now a days and their treatment is frowned upon by the governing authorities. I do understand. 

That sounds good. I do have a faith in God but I respect science. I need to support my family. 

Here we are take this referral to doctor Smith.

Thank you doctor, bye.


The doctor thinks: “Many people obviously will take the mark of the beast. I mean what will the neighbours say. I have a wife and 3 children to support. I need the money. I am not a religious fanatic. I am sensible. It comes down to who will not take the mark of the beast? Will this mark be forced on people. Money is not forced on people. Bank cards are not forced on people. The internet is not forced on people. So who will the simple living people be who don’t take the mark? The mark maybe phased in over a number of generations. It won’t be sudden. I know even now of some old people who still use a bank savings book. Of course in time such books will be phased out all together but it shows you that the mark may take many years to phase in. I hope I won’t have to make the decision to take the mark, by that time I hope I am buried and gone from this world. To take or not to take the mark makes for grave consequences but I know that God says for Christians not to take the mark”. 
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


February 21, 2016

End religious influence over Government
Ummm arrrr
What about also:

End humanism influence over Government.


End secular influence over Government. 


End all influence over Government. 
So the humanists find religion is a threat to good Governance. 

Do the humanists want to control Government? It looks that way. So the humanists want a secular Government. 
Religion interference in Government can and has been detrimental to the good of society. Religion can be bigoted and hypocritical. We get the religious bigots who think they know it all. We get the religious hypocrites who do not practice what they preach. We get the religious evangelicals who are trying to save every dog, cat, Bob, Gloria and save them all over again and again. They can save one person many times. You can get saved (each time) in to many denominations. 
How far can we go with: “Do not influence Government”. 
Religion is an important thread to our frantic of society. A lot of people have some kind of belief and or faith. 
Separation of religion and State is hardly possible. Each person voted in to Government takes with them their religion; it could be their belief in aliens in outer space or coming back to earth after death as another creature etc. Religion is about a persons God the god they worship and or follow in spirit. They may worship the football players of their local team. Idols are peoples spiritual gods. Religion is just not about the main religions of Christian, Hindu, Islam or Jewish. Religion is about belief and belief is about god or God. 
I could say to these humanists we should not have secular policies influencing Government. 
The public vote in their leaders; we call it democracy; so we vote in who we want of those up for leadership. If we want to vote in a person who is a Christian believer we can we have that choice.

And if the Christian believer gets voted in to parliament he or she can bring to the sitting parliament bills of his or her choice. Such bills are passed or lost according to the vote of parliamentarians.  
The secularists can vote in who they want in to parliament. 
What we want is DEMOCRACY.
Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


January 28, 2016

The Christian church as we know it or what we can call the established church has for as long as it has existed given aid to the less fortunate. We call it charity. And I think we call charity love. 

But where is the love THE CHARITY from other religions? What charity do the Muslims give? What charity do the Buddhists give? What charity do the Hindu give? I think of the big main charities in Western nations and a lot of those began at the hands of Christians. And it’s the Western nations based on Christian/Jewish principles that give just about all the foreign aid to undeveloped nations. The nations ruled by alien gods give little or no charity to the poor or sick.
Ok so there is little or no charity with religions outside the Christian religion. Charity is the baseline for the Christian religion. 
When we have say a big natural disaster. Say a nation is hit bad by a typhoon or a earthquake or both. Who do we see sending aid to this nation? First the USA is the biggest giver of aid. Followed by other or all Western nations. Do you see the Muslim nations giving aid? – just about nil. And Nigeria with its billions of money of income each year would turn its back just as it turns its back on its own people. Even the Gulf States would give little (they are Muslim) and they are reeking of money, money from oil. Islam is not charity. Where is the love in Islam? I can not see any evidence of it in this world. I see no love in Islam and I see no love in Buddhism and I see no love in Hindu and I see no love in any religion outside Christianity. Christianity has bigots and hypocrites but it also has charity which is called love.

 Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

THE ROCK CONCERT. Today’s generation church

August 30, 2015

I was greeted at the door by two greeters. Both smiled and gave me a service sheet. Soft music was playing in the back ground. I found a seat at the back and sat down. I wanted to look inconspicuous. I kept my eyes looking down for a while at the service sheet not wanting to make eye contact with anyone. I did not want to make waves and I certainly did not want anyone coming on to me with their religion. I knew enough about religion that remaining incognito is sometimes best. The music started to get louder, it was a type of mood music, one felt lulled in to comfort, it felt like I was being hypnotised. People now all sat in their seats, the service was about to start. 

I allowed my eyes to look around. The people were mostly youngish in their 20’s to 40’s. There were also some families with teenagers. The Pastor now spoke. The Pastor a woman in say her 40’s was dressed to kill, I mean she would not look amiss in a corporate office boardroom. Her make up on her face glistened in the heavy lighting. Yes the lights were strong, we were bathed in light. To her right were a band of three young guys and one girl. There was a drummer, two electric guitar players and the lady singer. The Pastor sat down, the fun began, the band beat out their music. We were at a rock concert come church service. The words were portrayed on a screen, we sang with gusto. Or they sang with gusto I just stood dumb founded by the whole scene. See I have never been one for music and less one for singing. “Jesus Jesus”, his name was sang like one was in a trance. It seemed so sexual the whole thing. I mean it was past romance it was like all on. Jesus was raptured out, we were in the rapture or were were mesmerised in to believing we were now being raptured. Oh yes the singer in the band, she was very pretty. She held the microphone like she was holding her boyfriend; every male in the audience must have felt like she was the one. She had the attention of all. It was like an orgy. The music was very moody. There came the rises and lows in the music. The band stopped playing. The Pastors husband another Pastor spoke, yes this leadership was a family affair. He spoke about giving. It was about giving to God but really it was about giving to him. He wanted money. The ushers went around with open plates. They were not bags but plates so other people can see what you are giving, you were shamed in to giving lots. No coins but big notes the bigger the better. The music started again. I thought – The only thing missing is the dance floor and the smoke and strobe lights. I mean is this better than sex; I see a lot of young people and no doubt most of them are single.

Later on after leaving the church, I reflected and thought – these people want this type of church rock concert, and they are not ashamed to say so. And these rock concerters might say – do you really want me to go to a dull dead traditional church where there are mostly old people. I could see their point but I would point out that wisdom is with the elderly. And what is more important wisdom or passion? The youth want passion but most of their passions are just immature lusts. The elderly have experience, wisdom and maturity. I also think both modern and old church have their faults but both also have their good points but me now at my stage in my life I am finding church in all its establishment forms boring. I might retire. 

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

This story: Novel genre.


April 7, 2015

Today is Easter Monday and I am watching television. The tv show is called “The Lone Ranger”. I think to myself “What will other people think of me watching what is considered a child’s show”. I think “We humans do not change”. The tree never changes. The seed becomes a tree. We think “The seed does change to become a sapling and changes to become a tree”. But I think “That the seed and sapling and tree are the same, nothing really changes. The essence never changes”. 

We see change on the outside but inside nothing changes. It’s the same for humans we never change. We look like we change structurally but in our soul and spirit we remain unchanged. So I watch a television show considered too childish for me but the show is not childish the show is child like. We humans can be child like but not childish. We can watch a child like show full of innocence and straightforward ness with out any reservations. But humans get it in to their heads that child like shows, full of innocence, is bad for grown up adults. Sure we grow up we get bigger and taller, the tree also grows up. But growing and maturing don’t change what’s inside. We are a little shadow of a soul and we are nothing really apart from God. 

Our souls need words to comprehend, without words the soul is nothing. But words need guidance and understanding. Our words need a framework and authority and power so God is the WORDS that give us this guidance and framework. Gods WORDS give us protection. Words grow and mature. But words don’t change. Words grow just as a tree grows. Gods WORDS don’t change. God never changes. 

So why do humans think they change? Yes a lot of humans do change and such change is not natural, such changes are unnatural. JESUS warned his disciples about the “Yeast of the Pharisees”. Yeast changes the bread, the bread rises in the hot oven with the help of yeast. Yeast symbolises all the man made changes that man goes through. The Pharisees were people of the yeast. The Pharisees were self important, self glorifying, self status seekers; the Pharisees were in to human wisdom in a big way. JESUS warned his disciples to stay away from the yeast. Man makes up his own wisdom and such wisdom makes man out to be important, wise, understanding, knowledgable, intelligent, strong, powerful, noble etc. God in the Bible speaks about unleavened bread, bread with no yeast in it. Such teachings about unleavened bread fall on death ears, people seem to not understand. 

Religion makes people important, wise etc. Religion can be full of man made rules and man made dogma. God never changes and we should not change. We are all equal. Religion should not exalt us in our own thinking. 

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

THE UNIVERSE – the universe made from water might not wash with most people and even I am not convinced.

October 30, 2014

God created the universe. Before God created the universe there was only a vast ocean. Was this ocean all water? Did God with his energy convert all the vast ocean of water in to what it is now? Did all life come from water? Did all creation come from water? Did the universe come from water? I am hesitant to believe that there is any water outside earth. So there was this vast ocean first. But was this vast ocean (was it water?) in total darkness? Yes I believe it was. And was not chaos here in this dark vast ocean? Yes chaos and darkness go together. So God made the chaos and darkness in to order and light. God created the heavens and hell and earth and the world. God used wisdom and understanding to create. God is all powerful; he has abundant eternal energy but even He needed rest after making the universe.

This universe being created from water might not wash with most people and even now I am having lots of second thoughts. I know life has to come from and stay in water. But out there beyond the earth there might be no life therefore no water and so why would God make matter outside the earth from water when (probably) that matter has no life on it or in it. I am a great sceptic of scientists who say there is a high chance of life out there beyond Earth, such does not gel with me. I could be wrong but my mind and heart are comfortable with only life here on earth. If the universe was made from water then there should all likelihood be water (and thus life) in lots of other places in the universe. Can an Almighty expanding explosion in a large ocean of water make matter like planets and gasses and suns? Can water burn? Can water give off energy? Life as we know it and understand and know it is only on planet earth. So water is only on this earth with the evidence at hand. Could God have created all earthly life from water and could the rest of the universe not been created from water.

Even if God did not create the universe from water we still know God is about cleanliness and being clean means being washed and being washed means washed in water. We humans need water, not just to stay alive but to also keep clean. God comes along and washes with His WORDS. The WORDS of God are all clean. Sin is dirty. God uses water. Does God need water to stay alive? Does God’s Spirit need water to stay alive? We humans as like all life on this planet earth need water to survive; without water we will die. God is a God of cleansing and the righteous people love to be clean. Cleanliness is sanity. Insanity is dirtiness. If we keep a clean mind/soul/spirit and body we stay sane.

Water is very very important to life, without it there is no life but did God create with water?

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


October 28, 2014

I think I think I think and I live within my heart and mind but I am also part of the universal conscious (mind) and universal subconscious (heart). My thoughts are linked in as other people’s thoughts are linked in to the greater universal thinking. So we are all (those in CHRIST) part of “The Universal Consciousness”.

Maybe we can call the process of how the Universal Conscious communicates – “COMMUNING”. Maybe the minds commune through human spirit. But maybe the communion only happens between those who are in the body of Christ. We commune within the confines of the church (body of Christ). The people outside the church (body of Christ) are out in the darkness, these people outside the body of Christ live in the wild they are not part of the cultivated thinking that is in the confines of the Cultivated Universal Mind and Heart of the body of Christ. Of course being in the Universal Mind and Heart of Christ does not necessary mean one is mature and wise. We mature and wizen up in thoughts over time. Just like a plant grows we humans also grow, we grow in spirit and soul in wisdom and maturity of thought. No one coming in to the body of Christ (saved soul) automatically goes straight to full maturity and wisdom. God is a God of growth. Nature itself tells us things grow. Gods creation grows. Humans grow in stature and wisdom.

Carl Jung a noted psychiatrist and psychotherapist (b. 1875 – d. 1961) also wrote about the universal conscious and sub conscious. Jung called it “Collective unconscious”. Jung in my mind was in the church (the spiritual body of Christ). Jung was in the cultivated body and not in the outside wild body. Jung had religion but he did not fully understand it. Jung had religion because his human father was in the body of Christ (that is my understanding). If ones father is saved, the son is saved. The son is saved the father is saved. I expect it also works with mother and daughter or is it father and daughter. Jung obviously was not a big reader of the Bible and if he was he did not refer to the Bible in his theories. Jung was humanising his understanding of what he learnt and discerned in the body of Christ (the church). Jung’s father was a Minister in the church. Jung no doubt learnt a lot about the Christian church but may have strayed from his fathers teachings to a gospel that the world preaches, a worldly gospel that puts man in the forefront of everything apart from God. Jung discerned well, so we gather he was very insightful, meaning he had a lot of light in him, not darkness. God may have blessed Jung because of his father. Jung’s human spirit must have learnt much from his fathers teachings at church. The human spirit listens and communes and sees and subconsciously learns even when we might not think so. Jung had good learning from his father but his mother was another thing. Jung’s mother may have had a mental illness. She was depressed and thought spirits were talking to her. Mental illness can in many cases be caused by immaturity. Jung in his grown up life maybe wanted to understand his mother more. Jung maybe was trying to be like his Minister (Pastor) father but pastor/mentor/understand mental illness. So here we get Jung the minister of mind illnesses. Carl did not become a Minister of the church like his father but instead used the God given gifts given to him to play the Pastor in a humanistic way. It was never about God to Jung; oh no he was better than his father, he was not going to be exactly like his father, he was going to be his own man apart from his father. So we get Jung the humanist (it’s about him), not Jung the follower of Jesus Christ.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


August 23, 2014

Muslim fundamentalism – it’s much much more militant than Christian fundamentalism. Christian fundamentalism does not hack people’s heads off.
I used to fellowship with Christian fundamentalists – I found them: pushy, militant, mostly of a young age, egotistical, hormonal, selfish.
I used to associate with Christian fundamentalists a lot in my younger years. But they were young people who wanted power, they wanted money (and would use religion to get money), they wanted to be noticed. And of course they wanted fame and fortune. They were like young children and had lots of sibling rivalry amongst themselves.

But young people all seem to want “Fame and fortune”. Its hard for young people growing up. Its a hard to very hard life. No one wants to work like a pack horse and young Christians are no different. We want to live in the lap of luxury.

Then we get the extreme religious fundamentalists. These people are the apocalyptic. They live for the end times. They will even die in their so called end times struggle. So you see Muslim Religious leaders saying to the Muslim youth “if you die for the cause you will go to heaven and sleep with many virgin women”. Of course it’s all deceit with no truth in it.

Christian extreme fundamentalists set up communities and may have a leader that they call a prophet leading them. This prophet in most cases preys on the women and girls of the community committing all sorts of sexual perversions.

The youth want to believe these extreme fundamental causes because they feel wanted, needed and they have friends.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


December 14, 2013

Either it’s rock stars, pop stars, Hollywood stars; people worship stars. Then there’s the worship of the sun; the sun worshippers. The sun is a star. Then there’s those people who study the stars; there’s astrology and there’s astro physics.

People worship what’s above in physical form. A lot of scientists are declared Atheists. These atheist scientists think that worshipping the Jesus star is all poppycock a religion for the simple uneducated people. Scientists are known for their worship of the physical heavenly bodies and this includes the suns. Scientists look to their salvation from the physical heavens above. These scientists are searching for life up in the physical heavens. Such people look to knowledge that is not spiritual of God but is knowledge of just straight physical.

God is within. Gods kingdom is within. We the elect of God carry the kingdom of God within us. True knowledge is of Spirit of God and comes in to our hearts. Man in his folly looks for life outside earth in the physical. Life is in the spirit. Spirit saves the soul. Science in this world in its pure form is atheistic and Godless.

The photo shows the star above the infant Jesus Christ. The star depicts the star of Jesus Christ. We follow only one star; we worship only one star; we idolise only one star; Stars are above; Jesus is above; we worship and follow only the Star of Jesus Christ. True knowledge needs to come to our human spirit. That is why God sends His Holy Spirit in to our hearts. The human spirit learns the truth. The truth is not in worshipping the physical heavens or stars on this earth or above; the true star to worship is in Spirit. Our body carries the fullness of understanding and salvation not in worshipping all mans wisdom. TRUE WORSHIP IS IN SPIRIT not in the physical. Salvation is not out there. Salvation is not on other planets or suns. Salvation is within.

Live a very simple life and you might find salvation; a simple life in the flesh but wise in the heart. Live simple on the outside in this world but wise inside. Yes there is a life within; a living kingdom life within; a spiritual life within.

Science makes learning in the physical clever. Satan deceives. Satan led the first man and woman away from true Spiritual knowledge. The first man and woman were led away from the Tree Of Life. Scientists may say in their foolishness that the Bible is nonsense; but they themselves are deceived. Adam the first scientist (after the Fall) thought he was clever. Eve collaborated with the Devil to see Adam fall. The woman maybe jealous that Adam was first and that she was second to Adam. Ever since the fall women entice men to fall.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.



November 14, 2013

It was the year 1978 I was thinking of entering university. Such thoughts lingered with me off and on for months. I had thoughts of getting knowledge from studying at university. Knowledge seemed to be of interest to me. I thought about how people seemed to have understanding, they seemed to know, know what I do not know, but they seemed to be above in a way, they achieved and succeeded. I seemed to know just about nil I understood just about nothing, I was just drifting along trying to cope the best I could.

I had a bible, a Gideon’s bible, it was a New Testament, this bible was just a little bible and there were times I would open it up and try to read it but nothing, it did nothing for me. I did not relate to the words, the words just went over my head. A few times just so few I considered a church not far from where I lived. I lived alone. I thought of this church and considered about going to it but then I would think that no way can I attend that church, I was a mess, they surely would not accept me a sinner, a person who was deeply depraved. I thought of the people that would attend that church, good people, upstanding people, men who had good professions in the community, married people with children, people who were clean of sin, they surely would ostracise me a dirty sinner. So I never attended that church. It was a traditional church. So I continued in my sins my depravity and tried to cope the best I could.

One day I took a trip in my car. I passed a building offering art work for sale. I went in and was besotted with a painting. I really loved this painting it was so appealing. An oil painting with a mountain and a River. I just knew I had to buy it. It was a fantastic art work and not expensive. It was cheap but not nasty. I bought the mountain painting. I liked a mountain scene so much. It was only later that in my mind and heart that I learnt that there was understanding that God wanted to teach me from looking at this painting. I knew nothing about the understanding at this stage.

I applied to go to university. I got accepted. I applied for university accommodation and got it. I went to university thinking I was going to get knowledge. I got no knowledge from university but I did get another type of knowledge. I lived and studied at university for one year. The knowledge I received was a Spirit knowledge. I never received mans knowledge. University seemed to be about man and his achievements apart from God, mans philosophy, mans study of the soul, mans science, mans sociology, I was dumb to all such teachings.

I moved back home to my parents. I needed to rest. I tried mans way and it just was stressing me out. I tried God’s way. God’s knowledge not man’s knowledge. I discovered the power of words. I discovered that God’s Word is supreme. I discovered a Spirit an inner Spirit person in my heart. I found this Spirit communing with me. Understanding slowly grew in me. Night and day I learnt. I knew things but I could not talk to others about what I had learnt because I thought that they would say I was talking nonsense. Mans wisdom is strong in the church. The painting was now on my bedroom wall. I often lay in bed looking at this painting. Then I got inner revelation about this painting. I saw things. I saw a person at the top of the mountain. I saw a woman sitting on a dragon. I saw the man at the mountain top holding a rod in his hand. The man looked like he could strike the dragons head with the rod. I saw a hand facing outward from the mountain; the hand in a revelation was now the woman and the dragon. The woman turned in to a palm of a hand and the dragon turned in to a arm.

I remembered a time back years ago in my early 20’s; I was working at the Government Tourist Bureau. I was mesmerised for a few minutes. I seemed to be listening but not listening. I seemed to be aware of something speaking to me but I did not know where the voice was coming from. I heard but I could not make out exact words I just got an understanding of what was being told to me. The voice was speaking to me about me writing. Writing what I did not know at that stage, I just knew there was something bigger or better for me in the future, what I did not know.

Years later after my born again experience with God at my university time, I was in the Wellington town hall. I sat there with a big audience watching and listening to a USA evangelist preaching; Leighton Ford, brother in law to evangelist Billy Graham. I then got mesmerised. I saw a vision on the front stage of the then current Roman Catholic Pope John Paul. He was tall and in his white vestments. But there was more; my heart felt like a River of water was gushing through it; and there was more, I perceived and it was a sure perception like it was visible but it was not visible there was a crown on my head. Now I was in a nirvana state I was on a real Spiritual high, I was totally engrossed with these spiritual happenings. How long did it last? Maybe minutes but it was so wonderful, I loved every moment of it. I must mention one more happening at this time; I knew during the vision that a voice was talking. It was directing it’s speech maybe to Leighton Ford, I could be wrong. I understood the voice was speaking about simplicity; that is all I could make out from what was said. But a couple of days later in the newspaper Leighton was quoted speaking to the reporter about the simplicity of God. Wow wow it is no delusion to me.

Religion never saved me. In 1978 when I was considering going to a church I did not go because I thought that I was not good enough to be with such good church people. So such religious people did not save me. It was a humble man who was at university that pointed me in the direction of God. This man was evangelical. He befriended me. He reached out to me in friendship. He mentored me. He taught me. Today I had thoughts about religion. Religion to me still had its place. This place can be like a home, a place to worship God and fellowship with fellow believers. Religion does not always save but it can be a place where we make friends. Religion is like a church building; it’s an outer thing, but it has its purpose in the scheme of things. Rituals are all known as religious and as such are called man made. True they are man made but sometimes they try and copy what the Bible teaches us to do. Not all rituals are bad. The taking of bread and wine at communion can not be bad. I have found solace within the walls of a church. I attend services often at a church and have done so for 12 years. Before then I attended church in other places and regularly. Church can be a lot of religion but in religion one can find good as well as bad. I thought today of a family; father, mother and say 3 children. The children have sibling rivalry, they fight, argue and bully each other. But some children in families also get on well. In a family we have good and bad. Church is family with also sibling rivalry etc. No one is perfect. Church has overall been good for me. I find attending a Traditional church suits me better than a modern Pentecostal church. In the modern churches there is a lot of young people and the young are generally known as unwise; what with all their youthful passions bubbling up, their noisy ness, their bullying, their hormones at peak; their forceful competition; so I prefer fellowshipping with an older wiser congregation. I am older now I like being older. Maturity comes with age, wisdom comes too. Older people are more sensible.
Who saves? Jesus Christ saves no other. God invites people to salvation. God will lead us in to situations where we learn to depend on Him. Religion does not save but it can be a home. Buts it’s a home more in the physical.

Science is a physical thing too. I received knowledge from God. I got understanding but it was not the knowledge from man, it was not the science that man goes for, I was barren of mans wisdom but got to have the fruit from the Tree of Life. Man is deceived by Satan. Man eats of the fruit of knowledge. But what knowledge? This surely is the knowledge that man and woman were told not to eat of. This was the fall of mankind. Man is so deceived that he/she knows no difference; he/she can not see; Satan has blinded them. Jesus while on this earth never taught the knowledge that resulted from the tree of knowledge in the Garden of Eden. Man will eat this knowledge and will eventually know all. He/she will not know God but will know all about creation, its a creation thing not a creator thing. Its like a human; man will know all about the body but not the head. Jesus is the head. So man thinks he will understand the head by researching the brain; still man won’t understand the head. The soul is God’s domain. The soul is in the head is it not. Science will never see the soul. So science to never see the soul will never believe in soul because science is about seeing is believing.

The religious people of Jesus day (on this earth) thought Jesus was a nutter; “He has a demon”. Prophets are not honoured in their home town and maybe not even honoured in their own country.
But we love everyone and everyone includes religious people. God loves everyone. When I was young and trying to cope in my sins, the self righteous people rejected me. But “The stone that the builders rejected has become the most important stone of all”. I want to love all people and that includes the self righteous people and the religious people.

Man: Mankind (Men and women).

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


November 8, 2013

God made man and woman.
Man (mankind – man and woman) made robots.
Robots are evolving.
Robots have their beginnings in: Telegraph. Radio. Valves. Diodes. Transistors. Micro chips. Computers. Televisions. Radar. Lasers. Nuclear.
Robots are about the accumulation of knowledge. Man wants knowledge. Eventually Robots will be in the image of man. Robots are there to serve man. But robots might be given free will.
God made man and woman and gave them free will. Did humans evolve? And are humans in the image of God? God also gave humans in first instance the choice of either being in ignorant bliss or having all knowledge.
Man took the knowledge. Will robots take the knowledge? Man does not want to work. Man will make robots in mans image to do mans work. God ordained man to work with his hands. Man in the garden of Eden in his ignorance bliss did not have to work, but man in his soul awakening to knowledge then had to work, work with his hands. Working was punishment from God for man disobeying God. God said to man not to eat of the fruit of knowledge. Man disobeyed. Man has to work. Woman has to work. Man in his cleverness will make robots to do his work. Once robots in full image of man do all mans work then man can rest. Robots will then do all the work, man will then do very little work. Having robots do all mans work is mans escape from Gods punishment.
Adam and Eve living in ignorant bliss did not have to worry themselves about anything as God provided all to them. Eden was paradise on this earth. All was bliss in the garden of Eden. God is known as a jealous God. Man on a whole does not want to work with his/her hands. Man wants to prove that knowledge is good and that having knowledge is Gods will. Man in knowledge puts himself in superiority to those people with less knowledge. This is a trick of Satan. Satan rules in a dark world. Light of God does light like light houses scattered around the world but there still are many places of darkness. God sent His Son to bring back people into a right relationship with the God Head. But Satan lies and deceives the world and the church itself is deceived. Jesus came from heaven and taught the true knowledge but alas people even the church has strayed from true wisdom to knowledge that originally man was forbidden by God to eat. Jesus left us a legacy in the bible. We read in the bible the true wisdom of God. Man in his deception thinks the bible is hard to understand. Satan blinds man to the truth of God. The truth is that the Bible is simple to understand. But man looks for complex to understand God, man thinks its clever to learn complex.
Will robots in mans image eventually turn away from man and serve themselves? Humans turned away from God. Man has made himself God with his manmade creatures the robots in mans image. Once robots in mans image get all knowledge they might not want to serve man and if so will man kick the robots out of? (Man was originally kicked out of Eden) kicked out of where? Where can man send robots if they misbehave? Maybe man in the future will have set up their own cities of Eden’s and robots maybe kicked out in to the wilderness out of these glorious manmade Eden cities.
Then what will save the robots? Jesus came to save humans. Jesus was Son of God and son of man. Sounds like Jesus was half God and half man. So will man send a man (or men and women) that is half human and half robot to the robots to save them. People having both robotic features and human features. These people maybe able to get the robots back on track. All speculation.

So what is more clever; (1) living in ignorant bliss or (2) having all knowledge.

Robots may also choose to have all knowledge.

God says its more clever to live in ignorant bliss. Bliss is just that. Bliss is as close to happiness as you can get. Bliss is no worries, no wars, no violence, no rape, no sickness, no starvation, no loneliness, no lies.

In ignorant bliss God will provide all. You will not have to struggle and strive with work. In bliss its always a life of innocence. Jesus came to try and set us back onto a life of bliss. But the damage has been done. Jesus taught us to love, love is about getting on together. Humans can not return to bliss on this earth. Bliss now only is in heaven. Heavenly bliss.

On a last note of thought: How will robots be kept in line? Maybe humans to police robots (robots in image of man and woman) will have to have a large force of people who are half human and half robot. Just as God has Christians that act in wisdom of God to keep order over the people’s of the earth.

Later Additional Note
In Eden did Adam and Eve have to work? And in heaven do we have to work? Eden was bliss. Heaven is bliss. Man and woman disobeyed God so were sent out of bliss (Eden) to the wilderness. In the wilderness there are weeds. I presume Eden had no weeds. Man now in the wilderness had to work to eat. In Eden man was provided by the food in the garden. Garden of Eden, It was a garden. And presumably a garden with no weeds. Food in abundance in this garden of Eden. So man in the wilderness had to make his own gardens. Eden garden was made by God. So man in the wilderness had to work the earth, till the earth, sow, plant and weed. All this work is work using your hands. This work was punishment for mankind disobeying God and eating of the fruit of knowledge;; so mankind is not clever.

Later Note
So Eden was a Garden. So Adam and Eve ate food from this Garden. We know gardens for their fruit and vegetables and nuts. Does this mean Adam and Eve were vegetarians; meaning they did not eat meat. You don’t grow meat in a garden. Gardens grow plants. I presume Adam and Eve also did not eat fish, birds or insects. God put the first man and woman in a garden so that they could eat food from the produce of the garden. Adam and Eve had no need to kill creatures to live; as such all creatures in the Garden of Eden ate off the plants in the Garden. Killing can instil thoughts of violence, you can violate a creature. So there was no killing in the Garden of Eden. Peace reigned in this Garden. Food was in abundance in this Garden.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


October 11, 2013

Malala a 16 year old girl from Pakistan has taken a stand on education for females. Now in the West especially, education has been nothing new for females. But it has not been always the case. In the dark ages, and later, Universities were the dominion of males. Women were not even allowed to vote for parliament until much later near our times. Discrimination is nothing new and also nothing new to the West. The USA Civil War claimed hundreds of thousands of lives and this war was about discrimination. Abraham Lincoln died (assassinated) for his stand against discrimination (racialism). Maybe Lincoln in the times now would be a Democrat. Malala loves to learn. Everyone should be allowed to learn either you be white, brown, black, female, male, slave, whatever you look like you should be allowed to learn. It does not matter how you look, to learn you just need a soul. All humans have souls (this sets us apart from all other creatures. God has soul {does he} we humans are in Gods likeness thus we humans have soul and thus we can learn. Other creatures {soulless and live by instinct} can not learn like us humans). The Taliban think that they have the right to stop a girl from learning. Of course they have no authority in heaven or on earth to stop people from learning. They are deluded. Either I am deluded or the Taliban are deluded. The Taliban do not respect the rights of females. The Taliban discriminate against females. Such is about money and power. Such is about idolatry.

BUT education can become an idol. There is the education from “man” and the education from God. The bible educates us. The WORDS from the bible can teach us, and save us, free us, and protect us. Of course the Bible is a book and a book does not save us. But the WORDS that are written in the BIBLE can help us immensely. We can read the scripture. Read it out. Speak it out. God has blessed such WORDS. It’s not so much just the words but the understanding the scriptural words give that free us and therefore save our souls. God is Spirit and of course God saves us BUT God can use the WORDS in the Bible to his advantage. The Bible over the centuries has changed BUT the true essence, the true meaning, the understanding, the wisdom, remains. The TRUTH will set us free. Malala wants females in Pakistan to be free to learn.

BUT learning to her means going to school and sitting in classrooms. School and learning that way to me was not pleasing to me. I hated sitting in classrooms all day. Reading highly boring text books that spoke at you rather than with you. Text books that had no warmth or insightful depth to them but felt hard and cold. Text books that you carried around in your school bags like heavy boulders. School was to me about discrimination, its about discrimination favouring the intelligent students as against the low intelligent students. School can be a nightmare. Students commit suicide. Students are prodded like cattle to learn, learn and learn, cram the knowledge in between your ears and do exams. BUT once the exams are done where does the knowledge go I mean they have to learn more so they may forget all the previous knowledge. You can only remember so much off by heart. Schooling in classrooms has much to desire. Schooling has not changed much. Sorry I am wrong; discipline in schooling has changed; no more caning students, no more corporal punishment. But putting students together in walled classrooms day-in day-out is not good for healthy behaviour. And homework; hey you go to school all day and the teachers load you up with heaps of homework so you are home each night doing hours of homework. Such unhealthiness. Schooling has gone mad. It’s not right. No one is really learning. It’s about education only for the sake of MONEY. You won’t be poor with an education. So education is about not being poor. The more educated you are the more rich you will be. So the message here is education frees you from poverty. FREEDOM. But the Bible says the Truth will set you free. The bible says Jesus Christ frees you. Human education frees you from one master to serve another master. You serve all those who are more educated than yourself. So you get trapped in a education pyramid of “mans” knowledge. You get trapped in a system of “Man” made by “Man”. It’s just another system made by man. No one is really free except through Jesus Christ. The only TRUE teaching to free ones soul and mind and heart is Jesus’ teachings. Malala has it right to an extent. She wants to learn. But JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY WAY, TRUTH AND LIFE, NO OTHER.

I found all my schooling suffocating. Teachers that had no inspiring spirits but just like dead people pushing and pushing and forcing education on oneself without regard to how we felt and thought. You had no say in how you wanted to be educated. It was just like a factory. No one really cared. Teachers seemed not to care. Students seemed not to care. Who cared? It was everyone for themselves. The weak are trodden on, the low intelligent are avoided. Fight the good fight. Fight for an education and nobody better get in your way. Jesus did not teach an education to his disciples like the teachers at school teach. Yet teachers at school seldom teach on what Jesus taught. Hey there’s no money in what Jesus taught. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY. So the USA Civil War was a slaughter. Here’s so called educated people killing others to keep black skinned people in slavery. Now a lot of these confederate slavers had education. These slavers had plantations, they were rich and to top it of they went to Church on a Sunday. During the First World War and Second World War there were many educated people fighting for the German and Japanese side. Such people instead of educating on “Mans” learning should have learnt off Gods son Jesus Christ. So education has not stopped wars, violence, rape, killings, murders, discrimination; and this is what Jesus teaches against but “Man” thinks he is so clever to not learn from Jesus but to learn from humanism manmade wisdom. Man is so clever in his/her own eyes.

I found a friend. I was introduced to a person. I can only call him a Spirit. I know no other way to describe him.Yes he is male. A gentleman. And he cares about me. Well I take it he cares about me. He is the sort of person you can trust your life to. No one can over power him. He is sharp; very sane, very together, very fast, so quick. I have this Spirit friend who can help me. I am someone now, have been ever since this gentleman came in to my life; yes he’s in my life, in me. Sound strange to say he’s in me, well he is like in my heart and I have been introduced to him like seen him spiritually. God works in mysterious ways, he works ways for others and other ways for some others.

So I have my personal Spirit teacher. I learn. I do not need HUMANISM. Humanism is as strong as wood. Such ism is based on creation not the creator. This ism is dry, waterless, uninspiring, suffocating. Humanism puts “MAN” at the centre of the universe; man apart from God. Humanism is about the quest and determination of the human spirit to acquire success and prosperity. Humanism is not about the Spirit of God; humanism is about achievement apart from God; YOU CAN ACHIEVE APART FROM GOD. Humanism is “buggering” up creation. The Church is getting buggered up. Humanism is not about working with your hands rather it about how clever you are. Put all humanists to work working with their hands and life will be more pleasant.

Malala has it right to a degree. To learn is good. But the way the school systems are set up are atrocious. They are uncomfortable and unsafe. No one really learns in an environment where you are not loved and accepted. School bullies control and teachers do not care.

Malala would be better to accept Jesus and his teachings then she can have a proper framework for all her learnings. Without Jesus all learning can be all in vain.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

Subjectivity and Objectivity / Both need each other to exist

September 8, 2013

Humans are both subject and object, we need to get a balance.

A subject is only a subject when it is subject to an object but the object is only an object when it has subjects that it objects to.

A king could be called a object and the kings people could be called his subjects.

Subjects worship an object.

Subjects do not worship other subjects.

Subjects are to submit to the reigning object.

The heart submits to the head.

The heart is below the head.

Objects are objective they object to evil.

The objects are more of the mind and rely more on facts.

Subjects are more of the heart and rely more on feelings.

The head is objective and the heart is subjective.

Subjective; sub, meaning below.

So the reigning king objects to the evil of his subjects.

Objects have subjects.

Christians rule with the mind of Jesus Christ as such they rule with rational objectivity. Christians also have a heart so they rule with subjective feelings. BUT the feelings are subject to the rational mind. Feelings do not rule without obedience to the rational mind.

Feelings are always subjective to facts. A rational mind is factual. Jesus Christ is fact.

Kind regards; Lester John Murray.


August 19, 2013

Jesus Christ: I am in my Father and my Father is in me and you my brethren are in me and I am in you.

Lester: I am in my father and my father is in me and I am in Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ is in me.

Lester: The father and son are one.

Lester: father like son, son like father.

Jesus: The Father and I are one.

God is ONE.

A true essence of God is oneness, we too must try and achieve oneness.

Oneness is ultimate wise achievement.

God creates to a plan of ONENESS.

The ONE universe.

To achieve oneness for father and son is to achieve complete understanding.

Oneness is to know the Father and the Son.

One God one universe.

Sins rob father and son of oneness.

Generational sins dirty the nest.

Satan lies to God’s children.

Sins are passed down the generations through the family tree.

Confess your sins to God.

The God head was at the beginning.

Heads rule.

God is the ultimate Head, the Head of heads.

Sins make a darkness in the minds and hearts.

Sins dull the senses.

Sins darken true understanding.

To be Truly focused is to be focused on ONE. Worship the ONE true God.

To be focused on ONE is to be sane.

Each human being is an analogy of God and his Body.

Each human being has ONE head and ONE body.

The head rules the body.

God is the HEAD and the church is the BODY.

We are spirit and we learn the truth from God.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


July 12, 2013

Boys grow from their mothers to their fathers. A boy is born from the mother but looks to the father for direction. The mother nurtures the boy as the earth nurtures a plant. The boy starts as seed in the mother like as plant seed begins in the earth. The mother lets the boy grow towards the father. BUT there are cases, no doubt many, where the mother hates the father. Such hate could have begun as love and turned later to hate. The mothers hate turns on the boy.

See the boy is like a filling between two slices of bread. (The parents are like the two bread slices).The boy is as like in the father and the father is as like in the son. To get to the father the mother has to go through the son. The son gets controlled by the hateful mother. The son suffers the mothers hate for the father. The son gets controlled by the mother. The mother smothers the sons affection for the father. The mother smothers the boys spiritual growth. To grow spiritually the boy has to look to the father. An analogy is Father Sky and Mother Earth. Mother control can stop a boy from maturing. To mature is to grow; I am talking about spiritual maturity. Mother control can make the boy mentally unwell. Humans need to mature for any proper stability and this includes sexual stability. For a mother to smother a son she smothers the boys sexuality. The boy needs to mature to be able to relate to people in say work or say friendship relations. Mother control is about rebelling. The mother rebels against the father. The boy gets confused about direction in life, he never seems to find mature relationships. The mother is like the god to the boy. The boy even might learn to hate the father as the mother hates the father. The mother can not control the father but she can get the son, she tries and takes the son away from the father. The mother to win against the father takes his son. The son in this immature spiritual state can never really leave the mother and never matures to be like a/the father. The boy never matures enough to be like a proper father. The mother can destroy the boys chances of ever being a mature father. Mother control is unGodly. The mother works against what is the natural order of things. The father needs to be the overall authority in a family. The mother needs to submit to the father. The earth is below the sky as the mother is Mother Earth and is below the Father Sky. The seed comes from the father and is sown in the Mother Earth but the seed grows UP to the father sky. All plants grow UP. The boy needs both mother and father to mature. Mothers need to love the father and son and let the son grow UP towards the father. The son does not become like the mother but like the father. The boy becomes the father and gives the seeds. The cycle goes on. The boy does not become the mother. Jesus is the same as the Father. Jesus is in the Father as the Father is in Jesus. Jesus and the Father are ONE, but two persons. In real life sons and fathers should be one just as Jesus and the Father are one. Because of sin we humans do not realise the father and son sameness; but we should. Very few people get to this realisation.

We humans are spiritual. We are spirit. God is Spirit. God in Spirit can help the boy back on track. God can guide the boy to the father. The Bible is full of words of wisdom and can help the human spirit know what is the truth. Jesus came to take away the sins of the fathers and mothers (generational sins) and put people right with God. God gives people a second chance at making it right in life. Jesus took all our sins and our parents sins and our grand parents sins and all generational sins; all the foul sins of our ancestors, into his body and died to them. Jesus gave us another chance at life. Ancestral sins come through the family and the parents pass on these ancestral sins to their children. But this progressive carry on of sins can come to a stop; at the foot of the cross with Jesus Christ’s death on the cross. Give the sins to Jesus. Jesus on the cross is the power and wisdom of God. Only through Jesus can our sins and the sins (acquired) of our ancestors be forgiven. We are reconciled to the FATHER GOD only through Jesus Christ. Our ancestors may let us down, our parents may let us down, we can even let ourselves down, BUT God never let’s us down. Believe in God and His Son Jesus and believe that Jesus will make things right. Have Faith.

Immaturity is a form of what we call mental illness.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

For The Love Of Money

July 5, 2013

Life is not fair. Humans love to discriminate. To their advantage of course. And usually a selfish advantage. The North American war was about discrimination but the cause of this war also went deeper than just discrimination it was about the love of money. They called this war ‘The American Civil War’.

About 600,000 people died in this war. The Southern States of the USA were known as slave states. These slave states depended for their prosperity on the growing and selling of cotton. Great Britain was a major buyer of cotton as were a number of European countries. Great Britain with many European nations were in the process of a heightened industrial revolution. Machines had been invented and as such these machines like the steam engine assisted in manufacturing. Textiles was a major industry and cotton was imported from the slave states of the USA. BUT these slave states needed workers to work in the cotton fields. Such work was hard so these states brought in slaves from Africa to work in the fields. The white people did not want to do the hard manual work in producing cotton. Africans were captured by slave traders and shipped to North America and sold to white people. These Africans were slaves and were the white people’s property. Slaves did the hard work and thus made the Southern States of North America prosperous. These slave states later became known as the Confederation and the northern states came to be known as the Union. The Union states were more industrialised than the Confederate states. The Union states were free states; slavery was not tolerated much here.

Slaves meant prosperity. Slaves work for no wages and they are given very little. The ‘American Civil War’ was about slavery but it went deeper than that it was about money and prosperity. Who wants to work hard labour in the cotton fields? Not the white people when you can have slaves doing the work. Selling cotton meant making money.

Abraham Lincoln won the Presidency in 1860. The slave states were wary of Lincoln; Lincoln was a northerner and was not pro slavery. A number of slave states then went to secession (broke away from USA) and formed the Confederacy. Lincoln saw the secession as illegal. Lincoln wanted the slave states back in the USA. So ‘Civil War’ began in 1861. The Union won this war in 1865. Slavery was abolished. Lincoln was assassinated by a Confederate sympathiser; Lincoln died aged 56 years old 6 days after the ‘Civil War’ ended.

We get humans believing that they have the right to treat other humans with evil for the sake of making money. Humans want to be prosperous but on the backs of other people. Get the weaker people, the uneducated, the powerless, and subject them to a supposed master race and force them to work and make money for this master race. The Confederates made themselves a master race and the Africans slaves were made the inferior race. The whites believed that they had a right to treat the Africans as slaves. But what right? Surely it was not human rights. The Africans were chosen because for one; white people looked down on coloured skin people. White to them was supreme. Black skin colour was inferior. True intelligence respects life in all forms. Humans kill other humans because of the love of money.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

Psychic Cyber Warfare (Soul and Computers)

June 27, 2013

I ask did the former Soviet Union Government sponsor such warfare on its own citizens and against its satellite communist country citizens; and against other people’s in other countries. The KGB might have been at the forefront of using such warfare. Then did the Chinese use such warfare and does it still use such warfare. The Soviet Union in its fall of communism might (that is only maybe) have stepped down from such warfare in disgust seeing such warfare as really evil. But the USA Government, did it see the value of such warfare and has it gone with it to a deep level?
Such warfare is evil in the wrong hands. The church has known such warfare (without the computers) for a long time. When there is evil and good contesting each other there is mind warfare. The bible teaches about warfare in a spiritual sense. Apostle Paul calls it spiritual warfare. Christians are real aware of spiritual warfare. It seems to be a battle for the mind or I prefer to call it the soul. Evil and good want to possess the soul. We call the evil force Satan. The Soviet Government in the past in their warfare of souls did not have the benefit of as much computer technology as we now have.

So are Governments interfering in the workings of the soul? (With computers etc and psyche powers). If so it should be none of their business. The soul is God’s territory.

Governments are maybe interfering with people’s souls but they do not have the last word. God can cast soul in to heaven or hell. Spiritual warfare against Evil should be in the churches domain it should not be the responsibility of Government. The church has such responsibility of the soul, the Governments are interfering in church business. God gave spiritual warfare to the church to overcome evil against the souls. We have separation of church and Government for good reasons. True, church has been known to interfere with Governments but only when Governments transgress the will of God.

We secularise the soul. We leave God’s wisdom that is wisdom that comes from God through Jesus Christ and use manmade wisdom. The soul should always be God’s domain. We humans are gods not God. Man wants to rule the soul. Leaders of Governments need to read the Bible. Security of a nation for the good of that nation needs the leaders to turn to God and His Son Jesus Christ. Leaders are working for the good of their nations outside the church and outside the wisdom of Jesus Christ.

My understanding tells me that there is no alien life on other planets interfering in this world. At this time I do not believe in alien life.

So cyber (computer) warfare on its own is not the main bastion of warfare; the main bastion of warfare is the battle for the soul (Psyche). The battle for the soul has been in the religion arena for thousands of years. We hope the battle for the soul has now not come into the hands of Governments that want to control the world, control the worlds population through control of their souls.

Governments and their supposed roles in psychic warfare are not substantiated and as with most things that have no evidence such writings are put into say the conspiracy basket and labeled delusional. So please unless any evidence does surface (if any ever does) then we have to just take such writings (Governments into psyche warfare) with a grain of salt and leave it to providence. Such writings as such are just theory without evidence and I could be wrong about such theory.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

Who do we serve the head or the body?

June 21, 2013

The head has the soul.
The mind and the soul are one.
The head has the temple.
When we serve the body, are we then being selfish?
The old human sinful nature is in the heart.
The sinful nature can be called the old man.
The human spirit is in the heart.
The Holy Spirit is in the heart (comes from above).
When we serve the body, are we serving the old sinful nature in the heart.
When we serve the head, we serve the brains.
The brains are in charge of the body.
God is the head, he reigns from above.
The heart is not in charge of the body.
Light comes from God.
Invite God in to the heart.
Sin dims our insight.
Sin dims our hearing.
Sin dims all our senses.
Repent to God of all our sins, our sins are washed away.
Repent and we become functioning heads and bodies of God.
God is in the head and heart.
Invite God in to our temple.
Our body is the temple.
Our head is the temple.
We are gods not God.
Ego as it is known is the old sinful nature in the heart.
We do not serve this sinful ego nature.
We serve the head.
The head has to be free of darkness.
The body has to be free of darkness.
God is light.
Satan (enemy) rules in the darkness.
The head is above like as in the heavens.
The heart is like as in the world.
We overcome the world by having the head and heart of God through Jesus Christ.
Wickedness rules from above.
We must overcome this wicked rule from above.
We must take over the earth for God.
Only through Jesus Christ can wickedness be overcome above (head) and on this earth (heart).
Heaven and earth belong to God.
God wins back heaven and earth only through his begotten Son Jesus Christ.
We humans each of us in the body of Christ are each an analogy of the greater body and head of Jesus Christ.
We humans are the temple and head and body of Jesus Christ. BUT WE ARE AN ANALOGY OF GOD AND HIS TEMPLE.
We each human are not Jesus Christ; Jesus Christ is in us. Jesus Christ is a real person. He is the first and the last.
We wait for Jesus to return.
The atom is an analogy of the universe.
Each human is an analogy of God his/her creator.
Quantum spiritual knowledge exists as there is quantum physical knowledge.
Quantum, the ability to understand the whole when looking at a small part of the whole.
Satan our enemy also has his temple.
Satan lives in his temple.
Humans are that temple.
Satan’s children are the snakes.
Satan most probably is a dragon.
Such deities, snake and dragon live inside humans.
Basically we have two opposing forces that work through two main bodies (many people) of people.
God’s kingdom is within the body of Christ.
God’s kingdom is inside the bodies of each and every believer in Jesus Christ (the elect).
God’s kingdom is unconquerable.
So God’s word is spiritual.
We humans have a human spirit.
Mans wisdom is shallow.
We are human spirit and we must learn from God in human spirit.
Mans wisdom is mainly based on the physical.
We are more than just physical, we are spirit and soul.
We must save our souls.
God saves through Jesus Christ.
God gives spiritual gifts to believers.
There is a spiritual gift of understanding.
Heaven above remains a mystery just as the brain remains a mystery.
Heaven is more than the head of the church the body.
The brain, the mind, the soul, are just an analogy of heaven.
The heart holds the kingdom of God.
Analogy is sometimes hard to understand just as the analogy of the tree of knowledge in the garden of Eden is hard to understand.
The invisible is always hard to understand.
The FATHER God is invisible.
Jesus Christ is in the flesh, He is above in heaven.
When God overcomes the wickedness above and on this earth, our minds/souls and hearts become free, we come in to the light.
Wickedness when overcome by God’s Word leaves the heavens and earth and is like below our feet.

Analogy is hard to understand. We do not see we do not believe. Analogy only tries to teach answers when the student can not see the answer. To see through someone else’s eyes is so hard. Analogy as like a parable tries to show an answer/truth that lies in the invisible. It is so hard to prove the invisible. God says have faith.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

Quotations for Good Health

June 20, 2013

It’s called the simple truth not the complex truth.
The simple things in life are the best things in life.
Want to be wise, first become simple.
The simple become wise.
Complex is mankinds making.
True wisdom is found in simplicity.
To be healthy in life is to be wise.
To be mentally healthy one has to love everyone but not love in the love of evil but to love in the love of God.
Loving of God’s love keeps one mentally healthy and physically healthy.
It is wiser to love of God than it is to love of evil.
Light overcomes darkness; darkness does not overcome light.
God is light; Satan is dark.
Silence is golden.
Peace goes with quiet as war goes with noise.
Two ears, one mouth – I am sure God is hinting at something – Maybe listen twice the time as speaking.
If you have a complex please keep it to yourself I like simplicity.
Sssshhh be careful the person you are talking about might be listening. Want good health choose your words carefully.

“I made up my mind to forget everything except Jesus Christ and especially his death on the cross” [1 Corinthians 2:2 — Good News Bible]

The house of silence breeds prayer
The house of prayer breeds peace
The house of peace breeds love
The house of love breeds faith and hope

Atheism is a non- prophet organisation.

No body rules
I am the Prime Minister and I rule
No body rules
I am the Mayor and I rule
No body rules
You are deluded my learned friend I am the President and I rule
No body rules
You sir are mad
No body rules
Who does rule then?
Not the body. The Head rules.

War brings the best out in people and war brings the worst out in people.
War is organised chaos.

When the going gets tough the tough get going.
What seems to be too good to be true is most likely not true.
Jesus Christ is truth.

Put a seed in the ground – For it to grow it has to die.
Life comes from death a paradox but its the truth.
We as humans die to live and we live to die.

We humans eat to live and we live to eat.
The rich people live to eat and the poor people eat to live.

Bible; New Testament; Good News Bible: 1 Peter, Chapter 1, verse 18
“….. to set you free from the worthless manner of life handed down by your ancestors”.

Jesus Christ took in his body all our sins and the sins of our ancestors [generational sins] and died to all these worthless sins.

We are worthy through Jesus Christ.

I am clean.

Birds of a feather fly together.
What is one person’s rubbish is another person’s treasure.
My enemies enemy might be my friend.
My Mother used to say: “Cleanliness is next to Godliness”.
Our visionaries are the Prophets. When a church loses vision bring in the Prophets to bring back vision/ focus to the church.

God is found in silence – our silence.

When mankind and all his/her inventions are silent then we listen to God. God is heard in the noise of the wind; the noise of the birds; the flowing of the stream; the noises of the cattle and sheep; the chirping of the insects; and other God made creations. Manmade creations/inventions noises just snuff out our human spirit.

My heart beats at a simple rate. The rhythm of my heart is simple. We each human in heart immerse in to the greater world and whole universe with the simple beat of of our human hearts. The rhythm of the universal heart beat is simple. The heart beat rate can go faster or slower but it still remains a simple beat. To complex the heart beat makes a heart under tension. The universe (uni –verse) is like as a poetic verse made from a simple rhythm. We must keep our hearts in simple rhythm otherwise we go against God our creator. So keep the rhythm.
Lies fed to a simple heart bring on tension. Lies are complex and truth is simple. The heart does not accept lies because the heart can not digest complex. The heart only digests simplex. We need to have a healthy heart; we need to feed the heart the simple truth. There is so much tension in this world; it starts with words – lies; – the heart is tense – anxious. Speak the truth and its health to the heart thus healthy to the mind and body.

The speed of acquiring knowledge is inversely proportional to the acquiring of wisdom.
Old people learn better. Old people are wiser.
Young people can be wise.
In my older age I learn better.
But knowledge can puff one up. Getting wisdom is better.
Humans want to know as God knows.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

Seek God’s Wisdom

June 20, 2013

Seek wisdom. The photo of a crest of the ‘University of Western Australia’. God the creator gives His wisdom to mankind only through His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. But if the name Jesus Christ is mentioned at all in classes at the University by students the students will be reprimanded. Also you don’t mention the name Jesus Christ in assignments or exams, if you do your grades will marked down. And if you persist in the said you will be failed. Universities do have classes on theology but this is about comparative religions not studying Jesus’ teachings as being the way, truth and life and saving people’s souls. So this University crest says ‘Seek wisdom’; what wisdom? whose wisdom? If Jesus Christ is like nothing more than swear words at University, where does Jesus Christ come in in the teachings / learnings / knowledge at University? Jesus Christ is the HEAD of heads, the MIND of minds, the SPIRIT of spirits, the HEART of hearts; so why is Jesus Christ not recognised as the HEAD of all Universities, the top MIND of all Universities. Scripture (bible) should be at the forefront of University teaching, such biblical teaching should be our frame work of all other learning. We must be anchored by our frame work, it keeps us from being up with the fairies. We have to check our wrists, we do not want to weaken our spiritual (human spirit) strength. Strength in the wrists is good. We work with our hands. We cultivate our minds and hearts with our hands. We keep the weeds out of our minds and hearts with working with our hands. Weak wrists, weak spiritual strength; weak spiritual strength, weak morals. We work for God with our hands, we work for the God Head, we work for the brains of God. We have the mind of Jesus Christ. We are converted we have our souls converted to the soul of Christ. Our soul is like as in heaven. We wait for the glorious heaven above, we have a taste of it now. We in human spirit serve our soul, we love our soul, we save our soul (through Jesus Christ, no other). We in serving God the creator the God of gods serve the Christlike soul, serve all Christlike souls. But we are ultimately serving The One and only True God. So if Jesus Christ is not acknowledged at University, what is the University teaching? What wisdom is the University teaching? To teach wisdom outside Jesus Christ, we need to check our wrists. We have a perverted world. Man is becoming God in his own eyes and man is being worshipped. Satan has deceived the world. Satan and the women who sits on the Dragon deceive.


To me secular education is not about learning God’s wisdom. Jesus Christ is far from people’s thoughts in their pursuits of learning say at a University. Jesus Christ is the wisdom and power of God. Most education is about getting qualified. Education is about having a document that proves you are qualified in some field. SEEK WISDOM is the motto on the crest of the shield of the University of Western Australia. But what wisdom? Jesus Christ wisdom? But Jesus talk would most probably not be tolerated at University. So education on a whole is not about seeking God’s wisdom but seeking a qualification. You could come away from studying years at a University and have a qualification but not learnt God’s wisdom. People study and get qualified but they get qualified for work that does not sit with their human spirit and soul. They do not work for the head of God. They work but they are not working. It’s like an act. They are like actors. It’s about money yes. Get qualified so you can work for lots of money. It’s not about working with your hands its about money. And parents encourage this. Most people do not work in the field that God has chosen them to work in. It’s about the body and not the head. SO EDUCATION IS ABOUT GETTING A QUALIFICATION NOT GETTING GOD’S WISDOM. And most people get qualified and work not in God’s will because they were not wise enough to find God’s will. SEEK WISDOM, the motto on the crest of the University, is an anomaly.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


Seek Wisdom

June 19, 2013

Jesus! Jesus!
Hi Tom.
Don’t just stand outside come in.
Thanks for inviting me Tom.
No worries, help yourself to a beer, on the house, fridge is in the kitchen end of the corridor.
(Jesus smiles, walks in to a crowded living room, the music is loud. Jesus makes his way down the corridor)
Oh hi Gloria.
Meet my friend Joan.
Hi Joan.
Hi Jesus.
Gloria tells me you are studying sociology.
Sure am.
I love sociology. You like it.
It’s very complex to me.
You mean you do not understand it.
It’s just so uuumm yer complex.
What do you mean Jesus?
Well it’s seems so human made up.
Well I love sociology.
Hey Joan you love me too.
Yes Gloria I love you too.
It’s good to love; God is love.
Now Jesus do not get religious on us. I know who can help you about sociology; Roger. Roger is gay but he understands sociology so well. Roger is looking for a new friend.
No thanks Joan.
Hey are you being a snob Jesus.
Must go, need a leak.
(Jesus walks away from Gloria and Joan; Jesus heads for the kitchen)
Hey Tom where’s the bathroom?
Upstairs last room end of passageway.
(Jesus climbs the stairs comes to the door to the bathroom, opens the door, Jesus is desperate for a leak)
Oh so sorry.
You the new guy Jesus don’t mind me I will be here for yonks you can use the bath.
No I am imposing.
No you are not.
(Jesus is desperate to go)
Hi Carol.
(Sam and Jeff holding hands come in)
Use the bath.
No worries Carol.
Hi Jesus,
Hi Sam, hi Jeff.
(Carol still on the toilet answers her phone. Carol gets in to a conversation with a friend)
(“What the heck with it” Jesus thinks “I have to go”)
(Jesus relieves himself and walks out of the bathroom)
(Sam shouts after him, “Roger wants to speak to you”)
Hi Jesus, you still doing psychology?
Hi Ben, yep still doing it.
You not drinking.
No Ben I am not thirsty.
Thirsty, what’s thirsty to do with beer?
Jim! Jimbo!
Yer Ben!
Throw me a can!
(While Ben is turned away Jesus moves away quickly, he heads for the lounge, the music here is ear jamming, so very loud, people are dancing, some are even half dressed)
There you are Jesus.
Oh hi Roger.
Hear you are not coming to terms with sociology. I can heal you of that. Meet me in the upstairs bedroom down the passageway first on left. Meet me in 10 minutes.
(Roger then falls down on a sofa, the liquor is getting to him)
Hi. Want a dance.
No thanks.
Don’t you like women?
Yes but I can not dance.
My name is Kitty.
Yes I know, I see you in psychology class. You always sit at the back.
Yes I do, I find psychology so boring.
Me too.
I thought you were a genius. You look like one.
Psychology to me is so manmade.
Why do an Arts Degree then?
My FATHER instructed me to do it.
He wants me to learn about man.
What about women?
Yes women too.
How does studying an Arts Degree give you knowledge about men and women?
The Arts are to do with artificial. Artificial is to do with manmade. Manmade is to do with perversion. Perversion is a turning away from God our creator. Art is in the word artificial and art is about mankind not God. Art is mans creations not Gods creations.
You are so religious. Have fun, unwind, you look so tense, forget God and religion that’s for the oldies we are young, enjoy.
Got to go.
Your mummy wants you home.
Now Kitty be nice. Bye, see you in class tomorrow.
I might miss tomorrow, might sleep in, I will have such a bad hangover.
(Jesus leaves the house, he heads for his own digs a room in a university hostel nearby)
FATHER do I have to carry on learning about “mans” (peoples) understanding?
Yes my Son, please endure, you will bear fruit, you will succeed.
FATHER when can I come home?
Everything in its right timing. Be patient Son.
Night Son.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


June 18, 2013

Sensible eating and drinking should be a forte and focus of human thinking.
So what is good to eat and drink? What is our frame of reference when eating and drinking? The frame of reference is God. There is God made food and drink. Who else on this earth makes and creates? Yes mankind (people) makes and creates. Mankind makes food and drink. What we call manmade (term for people both male and female) is called artificial. Artificial is all unnatural. Unnatural is to be perverse.
What should we not eat and drink? Do not eat manmade food and drink if you want real sensible eating and drinking. To be truly wise is to eat and drink only God made food and drink. Eat a banana, eat an apple, eat a orange, eat nuts, eat wheat and barley, eat carrots, eat potatoes, eat lettuce, eat cauliflower, eat parsnip, eat cabbage, eat meat, eat chicken, eat fish, and the list goes on; we are speaking about God made food here; all these foods are God made not manmade. Drink plain water, drink milk; both God made too. Anything that is outside natural food and drink is unnatural and should be avoided. Natural is to honour God our maker. Man makes food and drink; man tries and passes food and drink off as God food but it is not; it is a deception. A lot of processed food and drink is manmade. Man even duplicates God’s flavourings. Manmade food and drinks are inferior to a God made food and drinks. Man tries and copies what God had made. Artificial is unnatural and perverse. Mankind is heading (like a steam train, all go) on a path of perverseness. Perverseness is about complexity. To be straight of God is to be in simplicity. Live straight thinking lives. God wants us to think straight. Mankind and his creations are arty and perverse. Get back to God and his creations in a life of simplicity. Give up manmade, give up artificial, give up complexity, give up perverseness. Mankind leads us away in his/her creations to worship mankind. Mankind becomes the God, the maker God. Humans then worship humans and turn away from our true creator, humans become perverts (means turning away). We get mans wisdom, mans philosophies, mans understanding, man and man not God. “Humanism” becomes the religion of mankind. Humanism is manmade understanding. Humanism perverts.

Yours sincerely; Lester John Murray.


June 18, 2013

Dad what is beyond?
You mean outside the water kingdom.
Yes Dad, what is out in outer space? I see things beyond.
I know son it’s somewhat of a mystery. Beyond is a mystery.
Your grandfather used to regale me with stories about stories his grandfather told him. They maybe true, I am not sure. My father told me that many years ago we fish lived on the land. We lived outside the water kingdom. Land was what it was called. Come here son, look over there, that is land.
Dad we would die outside water.
My father said that we fish evolved. We were able to breathe outside water.
Dad that sounds weird. How can you breathe outside water?
Just happened.
Dad did we originally come from the land?
Son my father told me that originally we were fish in a vast ocean. I mean vast.
You mean we were fish and we became land creatures then we became fish again.
Seems crazy but that is what my father told me.
So why go on the land?
Just meant to be.
So why come back to the water?
I do not know. Maybe it got too hot out there. Maybe food was scarce. Maybe life is in the water and it was natural to return to the water to keep us alive. You see it did not work out on the land. The land creatures were not surviving. The water was the only way to escape the devastation of the planet.
Dad why do some fish scratch in the sea bottom soil a symbol depicting a fish.
Yes the fish sign. It’s religion son.
What’s religion Dad?
The fish sign. Religion is about God and the meaning of life. The fish sign is a sign for all thinking creatures to see the symbol and discern. It was mainly used as a sign for us when we were land creatures. We are fish, we were fish, and we became fish again.
SON SON wake up.
You are having a bad dream son.
Dad the fish.
What fish?
You, me.
Dad we came from fish and are going to go back to being fish.
Nonsense. You get ready its late we must be moving, the church service won’t wait for us.
Dad the fish symbol.
You son are in the image of God and that was what God intended. Once in God’s image we stay in His image. How God got us to be in His image is still a mystery.

Yours sincerely; Lester John Murray.

Life can often be unfair

June 18, 2013

A lady is dragged in to an alley way. It is night. She screams. Passers by carry on just passing by. She screams then quiet. A man a Good Samaritan calls out “Does any one want help?” Still quiet. The Good Samaritan, Sam by name, steps in to the alley. It is all dark. No one is to be seen. It is too dark to see. Suddenly there is running of steps, a person runs past Sam; this person is just shadow like in the dark. The person is gone it is now quiet again. Sam walks down the alley. He feels his way using his hands along the side of one wall. He comes to a bump in the ground. Sam bends down he feels a human body, there is blood it gets all over his hands. He tries to wipe the blood off his hands with his handkerchief. “Hello he calls”. No answer. Sam moves his hand over the body. It is a female body. He touches a handle of a knife. He pulls on the handle the blade comes out of the body. No one is around, only the two of them. Suddenly theres the noise of screaming car tires then the alley way is all lit up. “police, move away from the body, put your hands in the air”. Sam is still holding the knife in his right hand. He has blood all over him.
Camera’s click, flashes go, there seems to be a time of just many cameras clicking. “Put the knife down, both hands behind your back”. Sam is taken in to custody. The newspapers have a field day. On front page news there is a large photo of Sam standing hands in the air with his right hand holding a bloodied knife. In everyone’s eyes it is too apparent who the killer was. Yes the woman was killed. Sam is the chief suspect and in court the jury find him guilty and the Judge gives Sam a life sentence.

What do we learn from this:

The obvious is not always right.

The passersby did not want to get involved. It’s true that in society if you get involved you are likely to get trouble. Sam got involved and he got trouble. Sam got a life sentence in prison. The law does not always work for the good person. Law is not perfect. We can not always trust the Law. Law can not protect. It just protects in name, but in name is not enough. Wisdom of God does protect. Law is made up of people who are fallible. Judges are fallible. The courts are fallible. Trust God with all your heart do not put your hearts trust in mere humans. Flesh and blood are no match for God. Flesh and blood are weak but God is all strong.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

The Captain Rules (He is the Head from above)

February 11, 2013

The captain of a ship is in ultimate charge of the ship. The captain is the supreme head of the ship. The captain works from above decks at the top end of the ship. The engines in the ship are way below. The engines power the ship. The chief engineer and his engineer assistants do not have charge over the whole ship. The chief engineer is subject to the captain above. True the chief engineer could easily turn off the engines or turn them on. But still the captain above rules. The heart has the power source. The Holy Spirit is in the heart. The Holy Spirit is the power just as the engines in a ship are the power. But the heart does not rule the body just as the engines in a ship do not rule the ship. The body comes under the head. The head rules. The ship comes under the captain who is the head. The captain or head of our human bodies is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the head he is the captain ruling from the head above. The head rules; not the body. The chief engineer being in the engine room below is not in charge of the ship; the captain is in charge of the whole ship. Jesus rules from above; the Holy Spirit though giving the power is himself subject to Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ in turn is subject to the Father God. We must have the mind of Jesus Christ.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

God’s Calling

February 7, 2013

I have discerned many things in my life time; this following explanation is of a discernment that came to me when I was a youngish member of the Body of Christ. I took on the God Head. I accepted Christ Jesus as my Lord and Head.

People of God (not people of the Snake, people who are the off spring of the Dragon) but people who are the off spring off Adam and Eve (and that is everyone not of the Snake). Such wisdom written here is nonsense to the people who are into human wisdom. People of God have a calling. Christian teachers love to preach/teach about callings of God; the Pentecostal Teachers have written many books about God’s calling on people’s lives. I have discerned people’s callings. I see where they fit in; in a work profession. I see what they would excel at if they were in the profession that I discern. Not only can I read this at times about people but with that discernment I also see a correlation between the looks of a persons face and their true God calling. Their face matches their calling. So we have facial likeness to a chosen career; chosen if chosen in God’s will. Now I discern many professions. I discern that most of God’s people are not in God’s chosen profession. A lot of people might just be partly in God’s profession; most are not even in part. So to be in God’s profession is to be in the mind of that profession. You learn to think in that profession. You understand that profession; your face is in that profession meaning your brain and head are in that profession. It is a Head thing not just a body thing.

Most people decide their career based on money and status. It is all about money to most people. Money does not get one in to God’s profession.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


February 7, 2013

Noise noise noise and more noise. How people love their noise. From wakening up in the morning till going to bed at night humans want and love their noise.

I am the opposite I hate noise I do not want noise. Music seems to be the big contender of noise for humans. Everywhere you go there is not far off the noise of music; day in night out; day in night out. Music at work, music at home, music on the bus, music on the train, music at the restaurant, music at the bus and train station. What is it about humans loving noise? I love to get away from all noise, I love peace and quiet I love reflecting, I love meditating. My heart often vexed; people talking and talking and talking; the wind carrying the words of people’s talk, words travelling in the wind, words travelling and giving destruction to minds, souls and bodies. People destroying rather than loving. People hating with their words. The heart and mind under duress hoping for peace. Words bring life and words bring destruction. The winds of life and destruction. Words bring peace or war. People fighting one another in words leading to cultivating (weeds) in wars, bringing on destruction to men women and beasts. Words lead to death or life. Peace goes with quiet and war goes with noise. Keep the mouth closed and listen. I am presently in a church building one of my refuges from noise, from the noise of destruction. I come here to reflect and meditate. I love reflection, I love to meditate. I come here regularly, I like it here. I love to hear my own thoughts. I love thoughts. In a place of peace like in a conservative church I can think and in my thinking I can bounce understanding thoughts in my heart and mind, I bounce these thoughts off Spirit in my heart. I love the thoughts of understanding I can hear these thoughts of understanding and can write them down. Understanding rears up in my heart it is not an understanding gleamed from other people’s thoughts, they are thoughts from within me, I do not get this learning from teachers in schools, colleges or universities, nor from classical scholars, nor from text books, nor from films, these thoughts come in spirit and from spirit. My thoughts are spirit based, they are a gift to me; I like to share my thoughts with other people. My thoughts ennoble God’s understanding through Jesus Christ. People hate God’s understanding; God’s people hate God’s understanding; humanism is rife right through the fabric of society and the church. It is not clever to learn God’s understanding people say; there is no money or prestige in it; we have to live people say; human wisdom they say gives them money, status; human wisdom puts food on the table, we have to provide for our wives or husbands and children. But Satan must love such talk and thoughts.

Human wisdom is buggering up the church (I say literally). Human wisdom has already buggered up a lot of the world. Humans abuse, rape and bugger. Mother Nature has to fight back sometime near in the future. She is being raped and abused and buggered. Humans see truth through complexity; they are going blind; false teachers teach a God of complexity. These false teachers are not helping the body (of Christ). These teachers are trying to divide the Church (body). Such teachers are divisive not of oneness. God is ONE, the body is ONE.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


February 7, 2013

Feelings, feelings, feelings. I feel in love with God. I feel in love with my wife or girl friend. Feeling is touch. Feeling is a motion to touch. You are moved by feelings to touch. Emotion is a motion (moved) to touch/feel.

Young people base their lives a lot on feelings. Immaturity is based a lot on feelings. Mature people are more rational (reason) they discern and do not let feelings control their lives. Feelings can be so irrational. It is better to be a mature thinker. People’s feelings change, they are called mood swings. Wise people think and think wisely. You can feel in love with a person one day and not feel in love with that same person another day. To look to feelings for happiness is wrong. Feelings are about self. Feelings can lead to depression; you feel low. Rational thinking is having a mind of reason. To be sane is to have reason. You love God for reasons not for high feelings. Young people love to feel good. There are modern Christian Churches where young people go to these church gatherings just so as to feel good; feel on a high; they get addicted to highs at church; it becomes like a drug. People want to feel joy. Feelings/touch is so unreliable. You should not let feelings direct your lives. You love someone for a reason(s). Love is touch/feelings to a point (you of course touch your spouse) but touch in love should not be the end all; reason has to be the main purpose of love; never lose your reason. Reason of God is to be wise. If Jesus Christ appeared on this earth right now you do not go and feel/touch him. You do not touch God (there are warranted reasons to touch God but only if such touching is of a clean pure nature). Affection and feelings are aligned. Feelings are not a good foundation of a marriage or any relationship. Think, think, discern. To have feelings as a basis of life will lead to lows and highs, and can lead to suicidal tendencies. Don’t base your life on feelings. Immature people run on feelings; mature people are more rational (reason). Touch as a sense should be very disciplined. Use the senses in the head first. The head rules; the senses are in the head. Before you go touching someone first use your head senses and think/discern. Your head protects the body. The head is alive; it has the mind of Christ (Christians have the mind of Christ or they should have). Mental illness can be caused by going too much on feelings. Rational thought keeps one sane. Feelings in excessiveness can make an irrational life.

A rational life is a mature life. A rational life is an understanding life. You understand and you are wise. Wisdom (through Jesus Christ) gives happiness; feelings don’t give happiness.

P.S. I liken a person who goes a lot by feelings to a blind person (no offence meant here). The blind person does not see so they try and guide themselves by touch/feel. Take a person who lacks insight they too would try and find their way by touch/feelings. Insight allies itself to wisdom. The person who lacks insight is a person who usually lacks wisdom. Feelings do not make a person wise; insight can wise a person up.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

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January 14, 2013

Yesterday I had an awkward experience. I was in a Catholic Church and meditating. I like to call meditating ‘reflecting’. Well here I was reflecting. I was way up front of the church. The church was near empty. This church is open all day for prayer and meditation. Mass is midday but it was now afternoon. I sat in my seat, as always very quietly. I had my eyes shut but knew a person was walking near me. I inwardly shunned this person hoping they would not disturb me. But no my quietness in this case was not to be. I opened my eyes, a young man was walking towards me. He got close to me, I looked intently at him, I was not glad of his presence, he started to speak to me, I was eyeing him, he looked afraid, he was about to leave me, I noticed the young man had longish hair something I do not approve on a male. Why? The head of a male should not be covered, the head is to glorify God. As he was to leave, I said to him “Go on, say what you have to say”. I was being a bit facetious with him and I was also thinking “He might just be the real mcCoy he might have a message from God for me”.

But alas what he said has troubled me ever since this encounter. I should have read the signs more properly at the time; when he first looked me in the eyes he was going to leave me but I inadvertently thought there might be a message from the divine for me. The long hair and the afraid to speak at first were obvious signs but not enough for me to know exactly. He looked gung-ho, a young man making out that he was clever. Clever of things of God.

On reflection after this encounter I can only think of the Pentecostal Church denomination. I align him in my thoughts with the said denomination. I in my early Christian days flirted with the Pentecostal religion; it was vexing on a number of occasions but I stayed with it trying to learn but alas my learning did not seem to generate the maturity I was after. I found growing more sustainable within the conservative traditional denominations. I am presently with a traditional congregation and here I have matured. Where I worship I am in a church that is in the holy catholic communion. This makes our church Catholic but not Roman Catholic. Most of the conservative mainline traditional churches are aligned with the holy catholic communion. And of course the Roman Catholic Church belongs to the holy catholic communion. I find the Pentecostals are more heart led than led by the head; the brains come second to them where the heart comes first. They seem to be an immature minded denomination.

Lets go back to my encounter with the young man; so the man spoke, I asked him to speak, he seemed shy now and mumbled some words about let the heart lead and that in this church I will not get my spiritual needs met. He then left. I thought at first he was saying something profound and that it was a special message to help me. But alas what he said has triggered off a lot of my known thoughts from my experience in Pentecostal churches in the past. I never now go in to Pentecostal churches; I try and avoid them. I never really enjoyed all the loud music and hyped up atmosphere. It was like a concert. There at the front was the most attractive girl or girls singing at the front holding a microphone leading the congregation in to a frenzy of feelings of so called joy. To me it was all feelings and these people get addicted to the joy feelings so they look forward to coming back for more and more. The feeling highs last only a short time. The males are staring at these attractive girls who are leading the singing worship and it looks like something out of one of these big entertainment concerts where the girl at front is “dressed to kill”. Slain in the heart. I think of glamour here, a glamour church. The Pastor all kitted out in his suit and tie looks like he is a successful business executive who is trying to sell you something. The feelings in such a church go on the high; the music uses mood music to generate the high. It becomes addictive this high in feelings. But like all feelings they have to come down to base. So is this church conversant to growing in maturity. For me probably not. I over time see feelings as a danger rather than a good. I see being rational as a better rule to live by. I see that maturity means maturity in thought and living by mature thought not by feelings. I do not want my heart to rule; I want my head to rule. Jesus rules from above. Jesus is the head. The Holy Spirit helps but Jesus above rules. The head is above and should rule. Jesus sends the Holy Spirit in to our hearts to help us but it is Jesus above who rules.

So we get these people who are called “Born agains”. These people are the prodigal sons and daughters. They and maybe their ancestors (Maybe going way back) left God. They thought they were clever. They whored and warred. Now I myself was a born again. Yes the born agains come back in to the body of Christ. They think now God favours them; yes it looks that ways at times but the real truth is far from the way it looks. Yes the prodigal son / daughter does come home but we must not forget that there was already a son / daughter at home and these stay at homes did not whore and war. These stay at homes stayed with God. With the return of the prodigals there is sibling rivalry. Rivalry for the Fathers love and blessings. Sometimes the rivalry never stops and sometimes there is animosity here. The prodigals get on a high and never want their high feelings to stop. The prodigals never seem to settle down and live quiet lives; they are so happy to be home and want the Father to keep on giving them things.

The young man that came up to me in church did not bring a message of solidarity. His message was divisive. He said to me to “let my heart lead”; this to me was obviously wrong. Feelings and immaturity seem to go together. We do not let our feelings lead us. A mature person uses reason. The head rules with reason. The heart seems to be the seat of feelings (Emotions) and the head has the seat of reason. Reason is to learn and mature. Reason has ‘Who, what, where, when, why and how’. We must question and sift. Sifting is called discerning. Discerning is to be wise. Wisdom leads to maturity.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

14th January 2013.

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Feelings / Reason

January 8, 2013

Feelings are ambiguous because feelings are not of the head but are of the body. The body feels, we have the sense of touch from the body. The head seemingly does not create a feeling of touch, if it does it is a small sensation. Ambiguous means having more than one interpretation. Feelings are called emotions. Emotions are feelings that moves a person. The word emotion has the word motion in it. We say when we feel that we are moved.

The head has the brain and the brain is in charge of the body. The body is not in charge of the head or brain. The brain gives the orders. We have what most people call – five senses; hearing, seeing, tasting, smelling and touch. Touch is the feeling sense or emotion sense. But as I said touch is of the body and not of the head. So we have a sense that is like outside the head (head being where the brain is). The brain registers information gained from the five senses. But feeling/touch sense can lead a person off track. Young people are more likely to let feelings guide their bodies. Older people will let the other senses rule more. Reason is where the brain is cognitive (acquiring knowledge) but to be cognitive the brain needs information from the senses. People say love is a feeling. But feelings can be moody. Mood swings up or down. Feelings change. So a person can feel good one minute and feel bad another minute. You can love in feeling a person one day and not feel in love with that person the next day. So what do we rely on to lead our bodies? Reason is the best guide and our brain needs to forsake feelings and use the four senses in the head and cognate these four senses and lead from the knowledge acquired. Feelings are a wrong guide and will sabotage the reason of the brain. Then there is the conflict of feelings against one another in ones own heart. The heart seems to be the home of feelings. But the heart should not lead over the head. The heart is not in charge. The head should always be in charge. A mature wise person of God knows that the head should rule. Immature people let feelings rule thus they are more conversant in letting the body rule rather than the brain in the head. In Christ we mature to have a wise mature mind/soul/brain/head. We in maturity see the head as where we live from. But this maturity takes time and might only come to fruition later in our lives. We have a living head and in Christ that head is in charge. Jesus Christ is not the body He is the Head. Jesus is our Head we are the body. The body is the Church. Jesus is the Head of the ONE Church. There is only ONE Head as there is only ONE body. There is only ONE Church. Aside from all these church denominations which are all factional of the One church (Body), Jesus has no favourites. Church dogma carries little weight when it comes to speaking directly to God about that dogma. Man’s wisdom made up in his own mind apart from God seems to divide rather than unite. The Bible has most of the Wisdom that the Church would need to know.

So Reason should not rely on feelings. Reason should be our guide. The brain should reason. The mind is in the head. Reason is of God. Jesus Christ is all reason in our head/mind/soul/brain. Jesus Christ is above in wisdom in our head. Wisdom of God is reason. Losing ones reason is insanity. Insanity is bad sanitation and means not getting waste out. In our minds/souls and hearts we have to keep the dirt out and keep clean. Demons (evil spirits) love dirtiness. Demons are attracted to dirt. Demons hate cleanliness. But to have a clean home you need to guard it. Jesus in Spirit will come in to our hearts and guard our hearts. Dirty thoughts attract demons. Dirt is anything that is not Godly. Getting the waste out regularly is good sanitation and is good sanity. Get the spiritual waste out and get the physical waste out; they go hand in hand.

So reason does not necessary have to rely on feelings for information.

Two eyes are in the head. Two ears are in the head. The tongue is in the head, the nostrils (nose) are in the head.
The head has the four senses. To use the four senses to the utmost is to sense fully and hopefully be sensible. But one must be mature in soul/mind. Maturity takes growth and growth takes time.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

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Science is not Faith

December 30, 2012

Part of a recent letter to my earthly father (He is still alive at 92 years old and he still seems strong)

Your written notes that you posted to me recently made me think. My first thought on those notes is that you can not prove God exists by science. Science deals with the physical, the Father God is not physical. Science deals with the visible, the Father God is invisible. So to me philosophical ramblings about a supreme God’s existence or non existence is just that; thought ramblings that go no where. We can think and think and think but we can not think God to appear before us. Thinking won’t prove God exists or God does not exist. So philosophy is impotent here. One can ramble on and look clever but without a frame work, without a foundation, the rambling though called philosophy can just be airy fairy and sound nonsense. To believe in a supreme God needs a step of faith. God in Spirit will invite His called Ones.

Science is not about belief and faith. Faith and belief are to do with religion. Science is about empirical evidence, it is about seeing is believing. Faith is not about seeing is believing. Faith is not a visible thing; faith believes in the invisible. “You see and you do not see, you hear but you do not hear” says the Bible. “Your minds have become dull and your hearts have become sick” says the Bible. God is Spirit. You can not say “God is there, God is here, God is under there”; God is Spirit and moves like the wind. God will only reveal himself to the true believers and to be a true believer takes a lot of faith. Faith means being faithful just like a man is faithful to his wife. To believe in God you have to want God, it means believing in the metaphorical, you have to need God. Only by going through a door will you know what is on the other side. It is a step of faith. Standing outside the door and saying all philosophical so called intelligent ramblings will not help open the door and will not get you through the door. Such philosophy is nonsense to those who have gone through the door. To step in faith means that you consider the Jesus Christ that is written in the scriptures is a man who is above all humans in quality. You see Jesus Christ as a person that stands out as what every human being should be like. We read the scriptures and see good sense in the writings. Science is based on knowledge but its all about physical. Meta; the beyond, the beyond in to the invisible spiritual life, see beyond the physical; that is clever. To see only physical is dull. Spirit gives life, life to mind heart and body. We each human have a human spirit, we must feed this human spirit. You can not feed your invisible human spirit physical food so physical sciences can not help the human spirit; physical sciences can not save the soul. You can not win against the dark forces in the game of life by using science as your weapons. Science is about physical weapons and “Fight by the sword and you die by the sword”. The true battle is in the mind (soul). We do not use physical weapons to save our souls from the dark forces. Our true weapons are spiritual in Word. Man’s words are futile against Evil it is only Gods Word’s that will win against Evil. Quoting Shakespeare or classical poets or classical philosophers against Evil to defend yourself is lame. Such wisdom will only spawn weakness in heart.

Agnosticism is to waver between belief and unbelief in a supreme God. It is to sit on the fence. It is not to believe in God and it is not not to believe in God, it is just wanting to observe. Observation is ok to some but it means missing out on so much more. Watching the game and not taking sides might make you think that you are clever but the participants who are playing the true life game are really having the better time. Light forces fighting the dark forces.
It is hard playing the game of life; light forces fighting the dark forces in spirit; the battle for people’s souls; saving people’s souls from the dark forces.

So the observers just accept the status quo and do not join in the game, they let others play the game of life and they just watch. But it is better to watch the game than join the game on the dark side. So is Science a lot of observation and is Faith a lot of action (Action for good).

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

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October 27, 2012

Cleansing is an act of God. We clean regularly. We clean with water. We clean ourselves with clean water. Water – a gift from God. God gave water. God created water. Did water evolve? Water is a essence of life. Water gives life. Without water there would be no life. Life lives in water. Life starts with water. Water to me is peculiar to planet Earth. Planet Earth is a peculiar planet. There to me is only one planet like Earth. Jesus the only begotten Son of God reigns supreme over this world and Earth. God the Father created the Universe for Jesus his Son. We humans clean ourselves often, we wash in water. Most animals, insects and birds wash in water. Cleaning is a major activity of a lot of creatures on this Earth. We get dirty day and night and we do not like to stay dirty all the time. We prefer to be clean.

Why do creatures prefer to be clean? Why not just stay dirty all the time? Why spend hours each week cleaning ourselves? Cleaning ourselves is hard work and takes up a lot of our time. There’s cleaning our hands, our bodies, our teeth, our hair, our head, our nostrils, our ears, our eyes etc etc. Humans spend heaps of time, effort and money on keeping physically clean why not then also spend such resources on keeping their hearts and minds clean. Cleanliness does not stop at just our personal cleaning but means also cleaning our own environment that we live and work in. So there’s a lot of physical cleaning involved and it takes a lot of hard work and money to be clean. As I said there’s also the cleaning of our hearts and minds. A lot of people clean the physical but neglect the spiritual cleaning. Both physical cleaning and spiritual cleaning should go hand in hand. It’s no good just been physically clean when ones heart and mind are still dirty. We must also spend time and work on cleaning our inner selves. People might say we do not have time to clean our inner selves we are too busy as it is. That’s where a balance needs to come in, balancing the spiritual with the physical. Recognise the inner self and give dignity to this inner spirit person. Also it is no good meeting a clean inner person and they smell badly in their physical flesh. Wash the inner and the outer. To think pure clean thoughts is to be clean in the inner person. Parents need to teach their children the value of both inner and outer cleaning. Cleanliness is next to Godliness my earthly Mother (RIP) used to say. Being clean means the less likelihood of been sick. Cleanliness is a ticket to good health. Dirtiness is unhealthy and dirtiness makes one sick. Spiritual dirtiness means spiritual unhealthiness. There’s the sick soul, the sick human spirit. Dirty people hang around dirty people and clean people hang around clean people. Clean people do not want to hang around dirty people and vice versa. Having a dirty human spirit is an invitation for other dirty spirits to hang around. Demons are evil spirits and they are dirty and they keep in the spiritual darkness. Dirty spirits do not like living in the light of God. Clean spirits like living in the light of God. People that are dirty spiritually tend to have dirty demons hanging around them. Demons love sin. Sin is to be dirty spiritually. Sin is impurity. Satan loves it when humans live in sin and are dirty. To live dirty is to live in sin and living in sin is to live in spiritual darkness. Cleanliness is to live in the light and to live with God.
So we wash often – spiritually and physically. Wash the inner self (The new inner self growing in God’s will) hand in hand with the outer self. Respect the inner person as well as the outer person, give dignity to both.

“If we walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus his Son washes away our sins”. 1 John 1:7 – Bible.

Christians need to regularly meet together so that spiritual washing can take place.

Jesus Christ while on this Earth on one occasion cleaned his disciples feet. We Christians need to do likewise. But this cleaning of feet is a spiritual lesson from Jesus. We do not actually clean people’s physical feet — no no. Jesus Christ has cleaned us when we were baptised we were fully immersed in a spiritual/soul cleansing. God has cleaned us whole (the saved ones). But we Christians still get dirty. The world is dirty. Dirt is all around – spiritually. Jesus taught us that we still need to clean one another. We Christians meet together in fellowship and in doing so we are cleaned. The blood of Jesus cleans us. We Christians need regular part cleaning. No human stays clean all the time. We need regular physical cleaning and regular spiritual cleaning.

Being clean gives us peace of mind it reinforces our sanity. We humans naturally see cleanliness as normal, it is what God wants. God is always clean. We must try to clean ourselves as often as possible so that we are clean like God our creator. In our after life in heaven we are eternally clean, we work towards that objective of our eternal cleanliness. And I say “Bring on heaven I look forward to heaven. Death carries no worries with it, to die a natural death is sweet, death no longer carries a sting with it, we have overcome death”.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.

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New Norcia – holy meditations

September 1, 2012

The monks are asked what do they do? I think of writings that I read in a booklet in my guesthouse room. A well known catholic saint went in to a chapel. Later on coming out of the chapel friends asked her “what did you do?” “I listened to God” she said and before her friends were able to ask she said “and God listened too”. When we pray to God we are speaking to God but when we are listening to God God could also be listening or he could be speaking to us. But in spirit we listen and often our mind does not know what out spirit is listening too.

So it is by faith that we listen to God and thus God enlightens our spirit thus enlightening our heart and mind. In this enlightening process we in heart and mind are lighted up so we discern more we see more we understand more. So in listening to God why should not God also listen. It is a mutual listening, God and we listen together. God is Spirit and it is understanding in spirit that gives life. Spirit is life and gives life. Spirit gives life to flesh. God listens to us. We do not want a God that is continually yapping away; constant chatter is unwise. The wise person often stays quiet and listens. The head has two ears and one tongue meaning listen twice as much time than talking. Talking can get us into trouble. Listening gets no one in to trouble. Words should be used with measure and used carefully making sure our words are doing good. God gave us words and words are a tool of the person to help or hinder. Words spoken or written can bring on wars. Wars can and have killed millions of people. Wars start with words. Words start with thoughts and thoughts are in words. So at New Norcia people come to listen just as the monks are listening. Wisdom is not found unless one has done a lot of listening first. Listen, learn, then talk. Listening to God is spirit listening as God is Spirit. What is God saying? People say we don’t know what God is saying. We never hear from God. But God is Spirit and he speaks to spirit. Have faith, listen and soon you will be wise you will understand. Teachers of the world teach knowledge but unless it is knowledge in spirit the knowledge is vain. Knowledge not of God can just puff us up and make us feel important we are proud. And “pride goes before a fall” as the wise saying goes. Knowledge of God can be eternal but it has to be knowledge of Jesus Christ. Only the mind of Jesus Christ is eternal. Mind knowledge of the world is temporal such knowledge leaves us it burns off in the refining / growing. Worldly teachers carry a pride such pride leads to arrogance. They believe in themselves apart from God. Arrogance means that a person is not listening to good sense. The mind of Jesus Christ is good sense. The mind of Jesus Christ is the superior mind to all other minds, other minds are in to idolatry.

We run a race we want to win the race we drop off all unnecessary luggage we give up all things that will weigh us down we run keeping only the simplest of needs we give up all wants and desires we only go with our needs. We run a straight path we keep straight and we keep our words to a minimum if we speak or write we keep to the truth we run with faith believing all our running is not in vain we endure suffering and troubles but we persevere knowing that what is ahead is all worth it. Worldly people need not come to New Norcia there is nothing much for them here. People of the world climb mountains but not in spirit but in the physical. The world is all amazed when people climb say Mount Everest or some other high physical mountain. These climbers even die climbing their physical mountains. What a waste. What vanity. To achieve in spiritual is much much more beneficial than achieving in physical. Physical is only temporal, spirit can be forever. But there are good spirits and there are evil spirits. It is vain to achieve in evil spirituality. So I am listening, I listen day and night, my spirit listens, my spirit listens to God and my spirit listens to other people. My spirit is continuing learning. And in later life (hopefully soon) when God overcomes the world completely through me my spirit will be of a maturity to hopefully fully understand. But patience is needed by me. Faith is needed by me to believe in my fully enlightened state in my later life. The wise of God climb a mountain but it is not a mountain in the physical. This spiritual mountain is not like any other mountain this mountain of God prepares us for eternity.

I said there can be mutual listening we listen and God listens. But is not this an impasse? What is the point of listening to God when He is also listening? But in our listening we can just reflect and mediate. We reflect off God in spirit to Spirit. God is all pure in Spirit and such God purity reflects on us in our spirit. In coming to New Norcia where the place is soaked in prayer and evil does not like to tread we can not be molested by evil spirits thus ensuring a good reflection off God and great meditating thoughts. I love holy meditation, such thinking is like heavenly thoughts.

Regards; Lester John Murray.

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31 August 2012

An Analogy of the Head and the Body

June 14, 2012

Come out spirit look up.
What is it?
We call it a head.
What does it do?
Look closer; see those two slit things in the front they are what we call eyes they see. Here give me your right hand; this; these are my eyes in spirit; I see in spirit like you too in spirit see; the head has two eyes to see too. Look at the head’s sides see an ear on each side, these ears hear. You and I hear noises so does the head. See that thing between the two eyes; it juts out abit; that’s called a nose. Here look at me this is my nose; it smells. See this; this is my tongue; look at the head; the head has a tongue in its mouth too and the tongue tastes.
I understand about seeing, hearing, tasting and smelling but what about the sense of touch or what we call to feel.
The head does not touch or feel.
Why not?
That is the way it is. The body does the touching and feeling.
What do you mean the body?
Come here spirit; hold my and; see the head; now look below the head that is what we call the body.
Is it wrong to touch or feel?
Let me put it this way; a lot of trouble in this world has been caused by touching and feeling. The head is rational it uses reason and this reason is based on seeing, hearing, tasting and smelling but not touch. You don’t see the head touching or feeling people or things it is the body that touches and feels and look at the trouble feeling and touching has caused in this world. The body relies on touch/feelings whereas the head relies on the other senses. Actually the body should rely on the head to know not go on touch/feelings. The head should be in charge the body should not be in charge.
What does the word analogy mean?
Analogy can be defined as: – A similarity in some respects between things that are otherwise dissimilar.
The Bible often refers to God or Jesus Christ as the head and the Bible often calls the Church the body of Christ. We see an analogy between the human head/body and God with the Church. The Bible makes it clear that this said analogy works for God/church the same way it works for head/body. We humans are an analogy of God and the Church. We humans are each a simple version of Almighty God and the wider Church. Every truth has its simple understanding. All truth has simplicity underlining it. Without simplex understanding we get so complex that we might as well be up with the fairies. Spirit (ours) needs to understand to be relevant in this world. When we build a house we first put in a foundation for the house. We put in a sturdy foundation and usually the foundation is made of concrete. Concrete is the simple foundation it is not complex. But instead of building the house on top of the concrete foundation in wood we can also build the house in concrete. A lot of people may put down a foundation in concrete but build on top of this in wood. Wood is nature based. Wood is only as strong as nature. Wood is weaker than concrete. Of course the wise person builds in iron and such people are usually the servants of God. Prophets of God are the iron people. We talk about a person as been “very wooden”; they get their strength from wooden / nature / humanism / worldly endeavours. Such people are known as “dry” they do not look or act inspired not inspired in spirit from God Spirit. Nature loving people are more mother orientated rather than father orientated people. We call nature “Mother Nature”. So when a person is in deep distress – Do they call out for the mother’s help or call out for the father’s help? Mum is usually the word (“Mums the word”) for most people and it shows that the father’s word has less respect than the mother’s word. The Bible teaches us that God is the Father and His Word is supreme. Mother Mary’s word is not supreme.
Who am I?
You my dear man are a spirit.
Who are you?
I am God’s Spirit. I have understanding.
What is the old sinful nature person?
That is the old nature person in your heart that dies; you in spirit have been raised up and you live for spirit. Your knowledge is in spirit you do not need to be ruled by the sinful nature flesh man in your heart. That life in the sinful nature flesh is of the past life you have a new life in spirit with God.
God, you and me, are we in the heart of the body?
We in spirit are in the heart but we in spirit worship the head.
But the head above the body – is that God?
God is every where but his seat is in the head. Just as your seat and mine (in spirit) is in the heart. God is above in the head too. This is a great mystery and needs a lot of thought with discernment. Ones eyes have to be very clear to see and understand. God is a God of analogy and metaphor. It is time to retire and think about these things; ponder and amaze oneself. You won’t know the truth unless you speak out and think. Jesus came in to this world and he will come again. Be watchful.

Kind regards; Lester John Murray.

A Time for Everything

May 25, 2012

I was walking on my usual rounds of the day; I came to one of my favourite spots. I was on the grounds of a large city Cathedral. I often come here. I do not bother much with the gardens here; I am one to go in to the Church and meditate. But this time I noticed something different. As I came up the driveway of the Church my eyes glanced over to where a tree was. But the tree was no more. My mind thought; it thought and thought. I was in a thought crisis. The lovely tree had gone. All that was left was a neat cut stump lying low in the ground. “The tree; the tree” I gasped in my thinking; “What have they done to it”.

The tree and its cut down brought on more of my thinking. Such thinking is as follows:

Gertrude (A tree near Henry) what are you looking at?
I am looking at you.
You are for it.
What do you mean?
Never mind.
Come on tell.
Look at all the mess you put around.
A few sticks.
More than a few sticks; more like many branches.
Hey that happens when you get old it happens to all of us.
But it’s happening to you now. And the children are not allowed to sit in your shade now. You see those notices put up by the head gardener they say no sitting near this tree; you. You are dangerous.
Phooey I am no danger.
You are.
(The phone rings in the head gardener’s office; the Bishop is on the phone)
Yes Your Grace; yes I will see to it.
(The head gardener goes outside; he looks at the tree) “Tut, tut” he thinks.
(Another complaint has come in about the tree. Branches are falling on people)
Henry sighs “I wish the children would come and sit in my shade again. I loved to hear their cherry chatter”.
(Evening comes then morning)
(Henry is still asleep he is known now to take long sleeps. He dreams of his younger days as a young big strong tree; the sunny days with children sitting at his feet laughing)
Henry, Henry.
Urrr aaar what? Who is it?
Henry the word is out; you are for it today.
Gertrude you woke me up from a lovely sleep now stop it and all this silly talk.
You are for the chop.
Leave me alone you talk nonsense.
(Henry goes back to sleep)
(Bbbzzzzzzzzzzzzz the chain saw goes)
What the; Can a tree get some sleep.
(Henry feels queasiness; it is like a knife is going in to him)
(Henry feels faint he starts to lose consciousness)
Who is there? What is going on?
Bye Henry.
Gertrude; help, help me.
(The assistant gardeners finish the job. Henry is fallen)
(That afternoon a truck comes to the Church grounds and the tree is cut up and put on it)
The assistant gardener says “That will make good firewood”.

As I said I was looking at the stump. The tree was no more; it obviously had served its purpose and was wanted no more. I thought “Everything has it’s time. But there are new beginnings; the stump is still there”.

Kind regards; Lester John Murray.

Listening to God

March 10, 2012


Damn that clock.
Herbert gets out of bed; he goes in to the ensuite bathroom.
Brrrriiiiiiii [the electric shaver]
Herbert gets dressed and goes out to the kitchen / dining room.
Band on the run; band on the run [the radio is on full blare]
Ddddduuuurrr [the blender is going]
What are you making dear?
Shirley wants a milkshake.
Herbert downs quickly some toast and a cuppa tea.
Bye dear.
Herbert gets in to his car. Brrrriiiiummmm [the car engine comes to life]
Briiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmm [the car engine]
Band on the run; band on the run [the car radio blares out music]
Herbert passes a building site. Drrrriiiiiiii [drills operating] raaaawwww [saws operating]
Herbert arrives at his work; he starts his work computer.
Rriiiinggg [the phone goes]
For the next some what hours the phone is ringing every so often.
Rrrriiiiiinnnnnngggg [the phone goes]
Comes 4.30pm Herbert leaves his work and drives home.
Brrrrrrriiiiiuuuumm [the car engine]
Herbert arrives home.
The television is on in the lounge giving off a loud noise.
Music is blaring loudly from Shirley’s room.
After dinner and watching television Herbert retires to bed.
Herbert has insomnia his mind /soul takes ages to get rid of all the manmade noises he heard during the day and evening.


Cock a doodle doo; cock a doodle doo [the rooster crows]
Pedro rises from his sweet slumber.
Pedro smells the sweet smell of bacon and eggs cooked on the wood stove.
The smell of the wood burning brings much vigour to Pedro’s nasal passages.
Pedro goes outside washes himself in the natural spring water from the well at the back of his home.
Pedro and his wife and their child have beaming smiles on their faces.
Pedro eats his breakfast and drinks some natural spring water.
Pedro goes off to work; he is a wood cutter.
Pedro works hard working with his hands.
God wants us humans to work with our hands.
While Pedro is working he hears the birds whistling; the sheep nearby are baaaaing; the stream close by makes a sound of water gushing; the tree branches make swaying noises.
Then there comes the end of Pedro’s working day. From afar Pedro smells the cooking smells coming from his wife’s cooking at home.
Pedro washes in the pure clean spring water and eats his sumptuous meal and drinks a little home made wine.
There are smiles on the faces of Pedro and his wife and daughter.
Pedro later retires and has a heavenly sleep.

God Made and Manmade

God made creation and rested. Man has been making creation ever since. As soon as man could make or create he has done so. Man got knowledge and with this knowledge he makes / creates. God made us humans; he made all the animals; he made all the birds; insects; fish and not to forget he made all the plants. Man has made a lot of things too. Man has made the television; the car; the blender; the telephone; the radio; the drill; the saw; the airconditioner; the fan; the ships; the planes; the stoves; the fridges and it goes on never stopping; man goes on creating.

God’s creations are simplistic. Man’s creations (inventions) are complex. Man thinks now that complex is God; complex is truth; complex is natural etc. Man has made a complex world. God made a simple universe but Man has complicated it by making a complex man made world. Man has made himself complex and in doing so has missed the heart beat of God. We must have our hearts beating to Gods rhythm or our hearts work against God.

Man’s creations (inventions) emit manmade noise whereas God’s creations emit God sounds. To listen to mans creations (inventions) is not natural but to listen to God’s creations is natural. Herbert has insomnia; this is because his mind / soul naturally do not gel with manmade noise. Pedro sleeps well; all day and night he hears natural God made sounds.

The Simple Life

Mankind needs the simple life. But mankind thinks that complexity will give them the happiness that they seek. Complexity gives only complicated and confusing. Complexity does not make one happy. Simplicity makes for happiness. Joe Blogs just wants to leave the city and go and live on a Pacific Island along with a woman; a few animals; a few hens and fishing tackle. Joe wants to be off the tread mill of complexity; that is off trying to be happy by accumulating wealth that this world calls wealth. Pedro and his wife and daughter smile but Herbert and his wife and daughter seldom smile. Money and the love of it destroys families. Families are torn apart because of the love of money. Pedro has hardly any money but he and his family are happy and contented. Herbert’s family are in crisis all the time.

The Religious simple Life

Men and Women do try to return to the simple life by living a simple religious vocation. There have been many people in the past and there are many people now living the simple religious life. The Catholics have their Monasteries and Nunneries. In these Monasteries and Nunneries life is lived in simplicity. Manmade noise is much further from a monk or nun’s soul / mind as they do not give over their minds and hearts to listen to such complex emitting inventions.

Listening in Silence – When we silence all mankind and his / her inventions / creations

We can not listen to God when we are listening to mankind’s creations. Our hearts to listen to God must have the right rhythm with God and to do that our hearts must beat with simplicity. We can not listen to God for example when we are at a rock concert listening to noise that is just trying to snuff out the essence of life in our spirit and soul. Such noise brings on perversion to the extreme. Pervert is to turn away from God. To turn away from God is to worship our bodies rather than the head. We must first have the mind / soul of Jesus Christ.

Listening in Simplicity

God wants us humans to live the simple life. Satan wants us to live the complex life. We have a choice. Who is telling the truth? Is complex the way to go or is simplicity the way to go? Pedro knows nothing much about the world and its knowledge but he is happy. Herbert knows much about the world’s knowledge and he is not happy. Herbert in later life might seek simplicity in a religious order or Herbert might go off and live in simplicity on a Pacific Island. We hope Pedro does not go after mankind’s creations but stays living in Godly simplicity.

Pedro listens to God because Pedro does not seek God in complex, complicated and confusing but in simplicity.

Who wants to listen to a complex, complicated and confusing god / God?
Not me.

Kind regards; Lester John Murray.

Lord of the Air – 666? or 777?

February 28, 2012


carbon carbon what is it about carbon? True it has 6 protons 6 neutrons 6 electrons but does that make carbon the beast? Is carbon the mark of the beast? All conjecture. Yes nitrogen has 7 protons 7 neutrons 7 electrons but is the number 7 really God’s number? I have not read anything in the Bible to state that 7 is God’s number for sure. The air has about 78% nitrogen. Is the beast about lording it over the air? Does the beast want to rule the air with carbon? The mark of the beast – is it a carbon mark on the hand or forehead? In the future is there going to be much much carbon in the air that people will be struggling to get clean air? So if the beast rules the air does he then rule this planet earth and all on it? Maybe the beast wants to kill all life (made by God) on this earth. Maybe the beast wants to kill all life with carbon. Who really knows? Yes the future will know.

We humans breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide. Plants do just the opposite — plants breathe in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen. So the oxygen you’re breathing now probably came from a plant.

We humans need living plants.

Maybe the beast wants in killing all God made life to include killing all plant (God made too) life.

Kind regards; Lester John Murray.

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