What did these nuns think they were? Gods.
Now they are saying children in these homes were used by drug companies for medical experiments. And what’s this about children dying from malnutrition in these homes.
Malnutrition is food starvation. Why were children starved? Starved to death.
The nuns must have had rational (reasonable) reasons for all their actions to these children in their care. I mean the nuns can not have been Evil, heartless, cruel. I mean these nuns went to chapel, prayed, read the scriptures, SO where was the practice of Christ here. There has to be a valid explanation for their actions.

I still have faith that the Roman Catholic Church has good in it. There are a lot of faithful Catholics. I married a catholic. I like the catholic spirituality. I get inspired by reading about the catholic saints.

Maybe the un married mothers were in the eyes of the religious (nuns) going to hell. I mean these mothers to the religious were “fallen”. And the children these fallen mothers gave birth to were also in these religious eyes going to hell.

So if these women and children were going to hell why were the nuns taking responsibility for them? Why did the nuns house these fallen? Were the mothers just cheap labour? Was there money to be made out of these women and children?


The act of Gods Son on the cross was an act of FORGIVENESS.

The Roman Catholic Church have a sacrament called “PENANCE”. This sacrament penance is part and parcel of the confession sacrament. Penance is to literally suffer for one sins; it is to self mortify the flesh, it is to make oneself ashamed for sinning.
In my thinking PENANCE came about from single religious men and women. Such people being single (not married) were having problems with LUST. So such religious having to stay single because of their religious calling had to mortify their need to satisfy their sex drive. The sex drive is normal and was given by God. It is natural for a man and a woman to have sex. But religious people thought they could be more holier if they did not marry and have sex. Yes Jesus Christ did not marry and he did not have sexual relations. The religious think they are clever not to marry and not to have sex. Even Apostle Paul says its better to be single, thus avoiding much of the worlds problems.

The nuns of these mother and children homes were brain washed with the sacrament of penance. The unmarried mothers no doubt in the nuns eyes had to suffer. These mothers had to be ashamed of their sins. The nuns wanted remorse from these mothers and to get their remorse the nuns believed that the mothers had to suffer even un to death. The nuns may have thought that they were doing the mothers and their children a kindness by giving them hope for salvation of their souls.

Jesus Christ On The Cross
If Jesus died for our sins and died to our sins and our sins died with Jesus – then – whose sins are we dying to. Maybe we are dying to other people’s sins. We forgive others, God forgives us. But do we take in to our bodies other people’s sins?

So Jesus Christ died for/to these unwed mothers sins. So why penance? Why did these unwed mothers and their children have to suffer (until death in lots of cases) so much at the hands of the nuns. Did the nuns get joy out of bringing suffering on the mothers and their children? Was there a touch of sadism here from the nuns?

Religion in the Christian Church in many cases is just what Jesus came to do away with; Jesus mocked the religious practices of the Sadducees and the Pharisees.

So sacraments in themselves do not save souls. Sacraments can be useful but in many cases sacraments have taken over from true religion; love, forgiveness, patience, tolerance, mercy, kindness, giving.

So the fruit on the tree of life is in the branches on the twigs and not on the trunk. Fruit is fruit of the Spirit of God. Fruit is love, mercy, forgiveness, kindness, patience and tolerance etc. The Catholic Church seem to be the trunk of the tree of life and the branches being the Protestant mainline churches and the twigs being the Pentecostal churches. The fruit of the Spirit of God seem to just be with the fringe churches the Pentecostals.

Yours Sincerely; Lester John Murray.


Almost 800 ‘forgotten’ Irish children dumped in septic tank mass grave at Catholic home
Updated Thu 5 Jun 2014, 5:44pm AEST

A septic tank was used to dump the bodies of almost 800 babies and children in Ireland near a home for unmarried mothers run by nuns, new research has shown, throwing more light on the Irish Catholic Church’s troubled past.

Death records suggest 796 children, from newborns to eight-year-olds, were dumped in a septic tank near a Catholic-run home for unmarried mothers, turning it into in a mass grave. The deaths occurred during the 35 years the home operated from 1925 to 1961.

The government announced it was examining the “best means” to address the “deeply disturbing” revelations.

Historian Catherine Corless, who made the discovery, said her study of death records for St Mary’s home in Tuam in County Galway suggests the former septic tank near the facility is a mass grave.

The septic tank, full to the brim with bones, was discovered in 1975 by locals when concrete slabs covering the tank broke up.

Until now, locals believed the bones mainly stemmed from the Great Irish famine of the 1840s when hundreds of thousands perished.

Many of the revelations are deeply disturbing and a shocking reminder of a darker past in Ireland.
Minister for children and youth affairs Charlie Flanagan
St Mary’s, run by the Bon Secours Sisters, was one of several “mother and baby” homes in early 20th century Ireland.

Thousands of unmarried pregnant women – labelled “fallen women” at the time – were sent to the homes to have their babies.

The women were ostracised by the conservative Catholic society and were often forced to hand over their children for adoption.

Health issues and problems associated with the homes have long been documented. As far back as 1944, a government inspection report of the Tuam home described some of the children as “fragile, pot-bellied and emaciated”.

The recently discovered death records for St Mary’s show that 796 children died from malnutrition and infectious diseases, such as measles and TB.

Conservative Catholic teaching at the time denied children of unmarried parents baptism and therefore burial in consecrated land.

The home was knocked down many years ago to make way for new houses, but the area around the unmarked mass grave has been maintained by locals.

A fundraising committee has now been formed and it is hoped a memorial will be built with all the names and ages of the children displayed.

Archbishop of Tuam Michael Neary said he would meet leaders of the Bon Secours Sisters to assist with the memorial.

Minister for children and youth affairs Charlie Flanagan said “active consideration is being given to the best means of addressing the harrowing details”.

“Many of the revelations are deeply disturbing and a shocking reminder of a darker past in Ireland when our children were not cherished as they should have been,” he said.

Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin said if a public inquiry into the “mother and baby” homes in Ireland was not established then a social history project was necessary.

He also said he supports “excavating what may be unmarked graves” at these sites.

The development is yet another damning disclosure of a Catholic Church-run institution in Ireland following almost countless revelations of abuse and neglect at schools or institutions in recent decades.


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